Talk:Boeing Crew Flight Test

Delay to sometime in 2021:
Since Boeing will be conducting a second uncrewed test flight sometime after October 2020, it is highly unlikely that this flight will take place anytime before 2021. Abul Bakhtiar 103.60.175.28 (talk) 09:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Confirmed for June 2021 UnitedFarmingInc (talk) 06:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Wilmore
Wilmore contrary to Ferguson is a NASA astronaut and not a Boeing employee. 2A01:CB0C:65A:2200:B114:84C4:F110:C241 (talk) 21:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah thanks, I missed that. The previous edits didn't have any edit comment. --mfb (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

We forgive you UnitedFarmingInc (talk) 06:51, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Crew roles
This article says:
 * "Three NASA astronauts will serve as the crew of Boe-CFT: commander Barry Wilmore, pilot Michael Fincke, and mission specialist Nicole Aunapu Mann."

And in the table below: No source is given for any of this. Now which is correct? Who will be pilot, and will the third one be mission specialist or joint operations commander? --PM3 (talk) 12:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Spacecraft Commander - Barry Wilmore
 * Pilot - Nicole Aunapu Mann
 * Joint Operations Commander - Michael Fincke

Mann will become the first woman to fly on the maiden crewed flight of an American spacecraft.
I don't think there is any precedent for Russian or Chinese spacecraft. So it should be any spacecraft, not just American. Hektor (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Flags for NASA astronauts
As part of their official duties NASA civil servant astronauts represent the country to the general public. The use of flags here is thus appropriate. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 07:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The addition of such flags is mostly counter to MOS:ICON. In this case the addition of three identical flags in front of names is purely decoration. Maungapohatu (talk) 06:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with @Maungapohatu here, having three flag icons in front of these astronauts' names is redundant when they're all from the same organization and country. Looking at previous spaceflight articles, especially FAs and GAs such as Apollo 11, STS-125, STS-8, and other articles like Gemini 9, where the crews are all from one nation (the United States), the same flag icon isn't used two or three or five or more times in one table since its redundant, and the reader should already know where the astronauts come from from earlier in the article. Compare those to more recent flights with international crews: STS-47, STS-71, Expedition 1, SpaceX Crew-6, and Soyuz MS-10, among plenty of others. Here I'd say the use of flags helps the reader to clearly identify the names of the astronauts with their nationalities. Of course there are exceptions to this rule, including the GA Mir EO-19, many of the Shenzhou missions, and of course the SpaceX Crew Demo-2, Inspiration 4, and the Polaris Dawn missions. At least for this article and other NASA-sponsored launches, precedent should establish that the flag icons aren't necessary when the mission consists entirely of crewmembers from one country or organization. I'll edit this article to reflect that shortly. SpacePod9 (talk) 01:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Please don't. Dragon routinely flies astronauts from other countries, it's expected that Starliner will do the same in the future. It is not obvious that both astronauts are Americans. This makes it different from e.g. the Gemini or the Apollo programs. I think removing flags if and only if all crew members are from one country is weird and unhelpful. --mfb (talk) 12:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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Would update but kinda lazy -Links to my Profily, chat discussion, and editing history! This message was sent by TenGolfPedia at 16:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Return date
@RickyCourtney NASA has not published return dates. The only thing they have said is the return is after the spacewalks. This is literally the only official information we have about the return date, and the infobox should reflect that. The earliest date of 4 July is extrapolation made by journalists and we don't know if that's the official date NASA has internally set. Also, you cannot change a SOURCED statement with something that is not supported by the source. Agile Jello (talk) 14:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Journalists are secondary sources considered to be the gold standard of Wikipedia sourcing. They can provide the proper analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Journalists are saying the next return date opportunity is no earlier than 4 July. “No earlier than” is not an “official date NASA has internally set” it means that’s the earliest the landing could happen, while acknowledging that it could also be delayed. It’s a typical term used with space missions. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 18:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * NET usually implies that's the official date NASA is currently planning for the end of the mission. Having this information on the infobox will mislead readers into thinking an official date has been set. The infobox should be reserved for factual information, while the text should contain the analysis and interpretation from secondary sources. Agile Jello (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Listing planned mission length
Is there any opposition to listing "~8 days (planned)" under the actual mission length? I think it's important, because it's part of the story of the mission... and it's been a stable part of the page for a while now... however one IP editor keeps removing it without any explanation. RickyCourtney (talk) 19:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)