Talk:Boilermaker (beer cocktail)

Notice of Merger
I just merged two versions of Depth charge into this article; it is still a litte rough around the edges. Please tighten it up and try to rectify some of the contridictions. Thanks! JesseW 13:16, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Removed George W. Bush Reference
Removed reference to George W. Bush. Could not find any supporting documentation to back up the claim that it was his "signature drink," so the "legend" can not be all that "popular." Will gladly go along with this if citations can be provided.

--28 Feb 05

Facts?
A "Sidecar" is a drink unto itself, and doesn't include beer. The graphic accompanying the article is wrong on the proportions of alcohol in beer vs. whiskey. Clearly "liquid" is intended. Even then, it would be wrong. 216.49.77.67 20:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)notmyname

Disambiguation

 * Wrong.  Mr  JM 22:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Basically, the term "boilermaker" has very little current-day currency for a profession. As far as it being a nickname of a sports team, I'll leave that up to others as to whether the drink or the team nickname affects more people -- but my money's on the drink. 71.235.56.24 (talk) 08:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

"The 40 Year Old Virgin"
"Depth Charge" is seen in "The 40 Year Old Virgin"

Composition of boilermaker
I question whether or not the term "boilermaker" is properly or widely used to refer to anything other than a shot of whiskey with beer. I've never heard it refer to tequila and certainly not vodka, even in settings where tequila and vodka were preferred liquors. Vodka mixed with beer is known as yorsh in Russia, but it is generally made with more than a shot of vodka and is always mixed, not chased. NTK 14:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never heard it to be anything but whiskey and beer, and possibly the addition of a raw egg if you are from the more ethnic parts of Pittsburgh. To my memory, you pour the egg into the beer; then the shot is dropped into the glass causing it to foam. I was always told the boilermaker originated in Pittsburgh with the steel workers, but I don't know if that's true or just local lore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.228.19 (talk) 05:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh... and FWIW, these stories came from steelworkers of Polish\Russian origin, so there may be more indications of the history of the drink there.
 * The article says that in the UK the drink can be made from bourbon, but bourbon is made in the U.S. Perhaps they meant to say Scotch? Dan Bollinger (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The kind of whiskey doesn't matter. Any kind will do. Wahrmund (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Therefore the article should simply say "whiskey" and not go into mistaken specifics. Dan Bollinger (talk) 16:46, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree, and I have removed the offending content. Wahrmund (talk) 18:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Origin of Boilermaker
I just did some searching. It seems I'm not the only one who's been told the drink originated in Pittsburgh with the steel workers:

http://www.citydictionary.com/PA/Pittsburgh/Boilermaker/122/

http://askville.amazon.com/boilermaker/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=1305878


 * "In The Joy of Mixology, Gary Regan asserts that the name came out of 19th century Pittsburgh steel mills: Indeed, the boilermaker was popularized by 19th century steel workers in Pennsylvania, who drank to wash away the taste of factory life. “It’s not a story with a lot of romance,” says Regan . “It was such a horrible job, you’d just want a slam of whisky before you had your beer.”

The last one actually mentions dropping the shot into the glass, as I remember it. (shot glass and all, to be clear, not just the contents)

...There were also some suite 101 links, but needless to say these links are blocked.

68.14.228.19 (talk) 05:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Specialty glassware for boilermakers?
My late father had a smallish glass in his liquor cabinet that I'm wondering if it was designed for boilermakers. It is two bulbous portions connected by a thin neck, looking like an hourglass with the upper bulb smaller than the lower. My hypothesis is that the lower one was filled with beer and the upper with whiskey or something before being drunken. As kids we'd drink coca-cola from it, as it made a delightful "glug glug" sensation as the liquid in the lower portion passed through the neck. Is this supposition correct, or is there some other explanation for this glass? ClevelandMemory (talk) 05:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sounds like either an absinthe glass or a bourbon and water glass. Absinthe glasses look sort of like wine glasses. the bottom bulb is filled with absinthe and the top is topped off with ice cold water and sugar. Bourbon and water glasses, I think, were a marketing gimmick from Jack Daniels. A shot of bourbon is trapped under the perfect amount of icewater and the two are mixed as the connoisseur sips. P.S. A boilermaker is responsible for my lack of correct formatting, amongst other things. Anybody is welcome to edit my comment with no fear of reproach or rebuttal. Signed Anon Jan. 7th, 2011  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.219.130.139 (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Typos/grammar cleaned up above as requested. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Russian Carbomb
"A "Russian Carbomb" is made by dropping a shot of vodka into a glass of vodka." Someone being facetious perhaps? All other recipes ive found online use Stout re http://www.barmeister.com/drinks/recipe/2635/?o=by_category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nully (talk • contribs) 21:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

In popular culture
This section is trivial and should be severely trimmed, if not removed entirely. Not every single mention of the drink is notable for inclusion. -- Zim Zala Bim talk  04:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. This list is too long and too trivial. I am removing it in accordance with WP:POPCULTURE. Gary (talk) 04:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Five years later, the unreferenced "popular culture" section is big and fat. Maybe most of these mentions are accurate, but how does this content comply with verifiability?