Talk:Boise National Forest/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Right, I willl take a look at this, make straightforward copyedits as I go (please revert if I accidentally change the meaning!) and jot questions below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)


 *  George Grimes and Moses Splawn... --> Needs a descriptor - i.e "Prospectors George Grimes and Moses Splawn...."


 *  Most of Boise National Forest is underlain by the Idaho Batholith, and both include parts of the Boise, Salmon River, and West mountain ranges, with the forest reaching a maximum elevation of 9,730 feet (2,970 m) on Steel Mountain. - I can't figure out what the "both" refers to here. Could make first part of this sentence active.
 * Added "Prospectors"


 *  Boise National Forest contains 75 percent of the known populations of Sacajawea's bitterroot. -I'd add "the endangered" to clarify why we are interested in this fact
 * Added that it is endemic, though not "endangered" on any U.S. federal or state lists.


 * European descendants  - "descendants" ?? - sounds weird..."European settlers" or just "Europeans"..?
 * Changed to "European settlers"


 *  After the 1860s Boise Basin gold rush ended, gold mining, along with tungsten, silver, and antimony mining, among other minerals, continued throughout the forest through the mid-twentieth century. - a triple category of things being mined makes the sentence a little cumbersome...
 * Changed to "After the 1860s Boise Basin gold rush ended, mining of tungsten, silver, antimony, and gold continued in the forest through the mid-twentieth century."


 *  The first people entered Idaho near the end of the last ice age at the end of the Pleistocene - be nice not to use two "ends" in the one sentence
 * Changed to "The first people entered Idaho near the end of the last ice age in the late Pleistocene"


 *  By 1951 when the last dredges shut down, at least 2.3 million ounces (65.2 million grams) of gold were produced from the Boise Basin area. - "had been produced"?
 * Changed. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 22:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll read it again later today, and check against the previous FAC nom to give it as big a shove in that direction as possible. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 *  Parts of the forest north of the South Fork Payette River and east of the North Fork Payette River are part of the Salmon River Mountains, which extend even further north and east outside the forest's boundaries. - there are two "parts" here, which would be good to reduce to one.
 * Removed the first.


 *  The Danskin Mountains are a smaller northwest to southeast running range on the forest's southern border - I'd rewrite as "The Danskin Mountains are a smaller range on the forest's southern border that run northwest to southeast"
 * Changed.


 * .., which according to the Forest Service is considered to be land that is capable of supporting trees on at least 50 percent of its area - huh? Surely it means actual and not capable? What about a plot of land that is cleared forest?
 * Yes, this is correct. See page 11 here. It's odd, and I'll take recommendations for something better.Fredlyfish4 (talk)


 *  ..Lodgepole pine and quaking aspen may be found alongside Douglas fir in cooler areas.. - this is even cooler areas than the sentence before...?
 * Yes, I changed this to include moist and dry areas, although the wording doesn't seem right. Feel free to change.
 * yeah...maybe sticking in an "even" before cooler ...but that seems like overkill really, so nevermind.


 * Any notes on fishing and what species are caught most commonly?
 * I added a sentence about which fish are intentionally stocked for recreational fishing, but I don't have anything on which ones are caught often.


 * Any problems with any weedy plants in the forest?
 * I'll look into this and the fishing question.
 * Added a few sentences at the end of the flora section.


 * The warmest, driest forested areas occur at elevations from 3,000 feet (910 m) to 6,500 feet (2,000 m) and on south-facing slopes that are steep and dry. - do the areas need all of these prerequisites? In which case, the wording should be tightened to, "The warmest, driest forested areas occur on steep and dry south-facing slopes at elevations from 3,000 feet (910 m) to 6,500 feet (2,000 m)." or if not all needed, then reworded to include an "or" in it somewhere.
 * I think your version is best.Fredlyfish4 (talk) 02:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * To clarify, the warmest and driest areas are on south-facing slopes. The steepness often has an effect on moisture, so maybe the second dry isn't necessary. Plus steep shouldn't be necessary in an area that is largely mountainous. Maybe simplify to "The warmest, driest forest areas occur on south-facing slopes..." Fredlyfish4 (talk) 02:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok sounds good. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Made this change. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 23:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

1. Well written?:
 * Prose quality: - ok, to me, I've been ok with the prose...but I am not exacting and can miss things...as we saw in the last FAC. So I am trying to go over it with a fine-tooth comb. Just about there with a couple of quibbles outstanding.
 * Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
 * References to sources:
 * Citations to reliable sources, where required:
 * No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:
 * Major aspects:
 * Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
 * Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?
 * No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
 * Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:  - see prose comment above. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC) passed - all good/nice work Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)