Talk:Boji stone/Archive 1

Boji a registered trademark?
Is this about a product or item that's been trademarked? Julia Rossi (talk) 07:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a trademarked name for a naturally occurring rock called Boji® Alive that has been "filled with healing energy"(sic) and is therefore trademarkable. These appear to be the same source material called Kansas Pop Rocks

This is an excellent example for why cross walking unverifiable new age philosophy against accepted scientific fact is a quagmire.

This stub should be perhaps be rewritten or else rolled into the discussion on the specific type iron sulphide concretion also known by the common name "Kansas Pop Rocks" It should keep the geological formation information regarding the occurrence of these peculiar concretions without addressing the apparent trademarked Boji® Alive Stone and alternative healing section. The Boji® Alive Stone and alternative healing texts apparently do not have valid research sources to justify inclusion in Wikipedia.

Either way the trademark issue can be resolved by removing the stub as it exists.

Previous comments withdrawn by this writer after reviewing NPOV and citation guidelines for articles.

Mstreman (talk) 04:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * To be frank, I feel that this page should simply be deleted because of lack of notability.


 * The Boji Information Page is a commercial supplier of Boji® Stone that promotes them as healing stones "filled with healing energy"(sic). They list Boji stones as a trademarked name for iron sulfide concretions found in a single hill, which they claim to to be pyramid-shaped. Google search returns nothing but sales pitches and hype for Boji stones. There is neither one credible nor reliable reference in the first 10 pages of hits for Google. There is not any scientific peer-reviewed research concerning them to be found in Google scholar and there is nothing about them in either GEOREF or MEDLINE. Also, mindat.org or webmineral.com, the two most reliable mineralogical databanks, lack any mention of Boji stones. Nothing about Boji stones is to be found in the  Kansas Geological Survey web pages. There appears to be a complete lack of any reliable, verifiable source, which is not self-published, that either recognizes Boji stones as being different from any other iron sulfide concretion or being notable enough to deserve a specific name.


 * In addition, there is nothing about Boji stones in:


 * Buchanan, Rex C., Tolsted, Laura L., and Swineford, Ada, 1986, Kansas Rocks and Minerals: Kansas Geological Survey, Educational Series 2, 60 p.


 * The Boji Information Page states:

Rutgers University Geology Department did a study on Boji Stones and found that through kirilian photography, Boji stones were seen to have a very powerful electromagnetic energy field.


 * I contacted “Rutgers University Geology Department” in an attempt to obtain information about this study. They told me that they lacked any record of any such research having been done by anyone in their department. In addition, Kirlian photography is not a recognized as a valid research tool by geologists. Thus, Boji stones fail to pass muster on the notability scale. Unless someone can provide either a valid geological or mineralogical reference for them, not commercial sales pitches, we should consider simply deleting the page about them.


 * Maybe. someone can contact the Kansas Geological Survey and obtained an opinion from them whether there is any factual basis for recognizing Boji stones as being different enough from the other iron sulfide concretions found in Kansas such that they qualify as being notable enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia.Paul H. (talk) 17:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Under WP:Verifiability the burden of verification lies with those who add statements to Wikipedia. If no one supplies reliable third-party info that Boji stones are anything but common stones sold by clever salesmen, I say delete the article as a non-notable advertisement.  This reminds me of "Screaming Yellow Zonkers," which were cleverly marketed boxes of popcorn.  Plazak (talk) 16:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, but Screaming Yellow Zonkers have a sugary glaze on them, and Crunch 'n Munch is caramel popcorn with peanuts in it. That's why they aren't just redirects to popcorn. So the question is, are these stones Cracker Jacks or are they just popcorn with another name? Beeblebrox (talk) 18:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that I look a little closer at this talk page, this question was raised about a year ago, and no credible evidence has been produced to indicate these stones are anything other than Kansas Pop Rocks with a brand name on them. I'm just gonna be bold and redirect it there. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)