Talk:Bombing of Frampol

Source of the quotation
The source of this quotation of Wolfgang Schreyer on Frampol "Eyes from the sky"; can not be traced in any major library (Germany, Great Britain, United States); could it be from his book "Unternehmen 'Thunderstorm'", published in 1955?. The same quotation from Schreyer appears (copy & paste) all over the Internet, but someone should trace this quotation back to the original source... which seems to be a documentary novel. --posted by User:80.56.222.84... Appleseed (Talk) 03:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I searched the string "Frampol was chosen as an experimental object" in both Amazon.com and Google Books to see if it would identify a book but both came up empty.
 * The military history web site http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/pol39/pol39.htm, written in English and Polish, identifies the Frampol bombing photos as "Wojna obronna Polski 1939, KAW 1979" and states that the photos "are probably from Luftwaffe documentation resources." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.152.228.9 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 5 November 2006


 * Did you search in English or German language ? --Lysytalk 14:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The last two remarks had been removed 17:01, 5 November 2006 by 4.152.231.55, restored 2008 by -- Matthead Discuß   12:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The quotation in German
This quotation of Schreyer about Frampol is that important that also the original text in German should be presented.

84.74.62.65 (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Wolfgang Schreyer
Wolfgang Schreyer now has an article. The quote is likely from his 1960s "Augen am Himmel: Eine Piratenchronik". The translation of the quote attributed to "Eyes on the sky" seems amateurish, the book apparently was not officially translated. -- Matthead Discuß   00:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

More Documentation Please
I know that the standard practice is to accuse the Nazis of any atrocity that can be conceived by the mind of man and then accept the accusation without question; but can't more evidence be provided than a short passage written by a novelist?

It also would be helpful to indicate who were the responsible commanding officers. You know, like who gave the orders. If they survived the war were they prosecuted for war crimes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Falange (talk • contribs) 14:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Aren't the photos good enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.219.232.135 (talk) 19:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

If that were the case we wouldn't need history books on WW2- only picture books.

There should be information on what units were involved and who gave the orders, at the very least.Were the orders from Hitler, Goering or the commanders in the field? If it was done on the initiative of local field commanders then it was not necessarily a result of State policy and not comparable to the admitted British govt policy that explicitly ordered terror bombing of civilian populations. And how do we know it was an "experiment"? Based on what evidence?The pictures don't tell us the motive.Falange (talk) 20:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Terror bombing was created by nazists
Good and short article.Terror bombing was created by japaneses and nazists, not by Arthur Harris or Royal Air Force. Agre22 (talk) 18:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)agre22


 * Actually, no it wasn't. The Germans were bombed by the British before Frampol - the UK hit Wilhelmshaven, Cuxhaven and Heligoland. But thanks for playing. --Npovshark (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As of 2011, Wikipedia contain no information of the bombing of Wilhelmshaven, Cuxhaven and Heligoland before this bombing of Frampol. Did it actually happen? Rmhermen (talk) 04:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Added source from Davies.--Molobo (talk) 14:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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