Talk:Bon Iver

No reference - 2018-present - Not sure what standard procedure is but thought it best to report it for someone who does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.134.30 (talk) 20:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Meaning/Derivation of name
Does anyone have reference for the derivation of the band's name. While it's certainly possible that it is a play on on "bon hiver", it could also be a play on "bon ivre", which means "good drunk".

Is there an official answer from the group, or did someone just assume? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.86.36 (talk) 21:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I have no reference for the band's name. However, as a native french speaker I can tell you that "bon ivre" doesn't mean anything. At least you would say "bonne ivresse", but I wouldn't say that to any of my friends anyway. Kasei (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I would appreciate any information on that name. I only know an American trademark with that name. Is it some quebecois phrase? French people say "bel hiver", and I find it hard to believe that the traditional phrase for wishing a good winter was lost here in europe while surviving in Wisconsin. --134.34.147.93 (talk) 11:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Untitled
The record wasn't released on Amble Down originally. Kyle Frenette of Amble Down manages Bon Iver and helped promote the record pretty much right from the start but it wasn't ever released on the label.

^^ This is not true. It was released locally in the Eau Claire area in July 2007. I have a copy of this release. It was released under Amble Down but subsequently went to Jagjaguwar for larger distribution.

The song The Wolves (act 1 and 2) were also featured on that GA episode.

Tour Musicians
Should we mention the people who are on tour with him? I feel as if that is a part of what 'Bon Iver' is now, as the live show is pretty big now. And I'd like to know if the second guitarist who looks like he's sixteen is in fact sixteen. K1da42 (talk) 19:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Mike is 21. 28 Sept 2008.

External link suggestion
Here are some good sources added recently from Volume One, an Eau Claire area arts magazine, should anyone care to update this page.

Article:http://volumeone.org/magazine/articles/280/BON_IVER_br_Anywhere_from_Here.html/page/1 Timeline: http://volumeone.org/magazine/articles/282/BON_IVER_A_Timeline.html Justin's Pre Bon Iver albums: http://volumeone.org/magazine/articles/281/BON_IVER_Back_Tracks.html

-- As an editor at Crawdaddy!, and to comply with COI guidelines, I am not posting the link to this article comparing the making of Bon Iver's For Emma, Forever Ago to Henry David Thoreau's Walden. However, I would like to recommend it on its merits, and hope that an editor will find the time to examine the article and—if he or she sees fit—post it to the external links section. I appreciate your time. Crawdaddy! Mike harkin (talk) 00:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Online Releases
Should the online releases of the Myspace Transmissions EP and the Daytrotter Session be included on this page?

They are both EP style releases put out for free online with 100% new recordings of songs off For Emma, Forever Ago - some of them are drastically different, being a whole band versus the solo work on the original album. Jkdeadite (talk) 04:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

They are not official releases and should not be noted as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.151.154 (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Live Performances
I just have a slight uneasiness about the sentence: "Justin Vernon is joined live by Sean Carey (drums, vocals, piano, vibes) and Mike Noyce (vocals, baritone guitar, guitar)."

It sort of sounds like an advertisement, or a blurb on the back of a DVD or something. I almost expected it to continue with "...and presents an evening of magical Christmas favourites...". It doesn't sit well with the biographical nature of the rest of the article.

Perhaps the easiest fix would be to amend it to read: "In the band's current live show, Justin Vernon is joined by Sean Carey (drums, vocals, piano, vibes) and Mike Noyce (vocals, baritone guitar, guitar)."

I don't actually know much about Bon Iver (and hence am commenting rather than editing), but the style seemed unusual and perhaps not fitting with the Wikipedia goals. Anyone care to comment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imcintosh (talk • contribs) 06:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

infobox
why the use of a box designed for individual artist on a page which professes to be on the subject of the band bon ivor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.196.156 (talk) 14:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Bon Iver is definitely a band now. Even if it started as a solo artist, at shows, Justin always says "We are Bon Iver."  If you need an mp3 of him saying that, I can hook you up.  He said so at the start of the NPR All Songs Considered performance.Jkdeadite (talk) 10:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Collections of Colonies of Bees

 * I heard something about Vernon being involved in some kind of side-project (maybe a one-off?) of this name. Can anyone substantiate this?  If so, is it worthy of mention here, given that Vernon's name redirects here anyway?--Hraefen Talk 03:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As a followup: this site says that Bon Iver and Collections of Colonies of Bees were going to release (did release?) a "brand new collaboration" in late 2008. Does anyone know if this happened and if it is available anywhere?--Hraefen Talk 00:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

TV spots
I don't really think that one off plays of a song on a TV series are that notable, especially when we are considering Bon Iver as a whole. It's pretty minor information and unless it can be proved to be of significant importance (e.g. directly resulted in mainstream success etc) then it's only suitable for the talk page or perhaps the song articles if possible. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 07:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

"Skinny Love" was also featured at the end of an episode of Chuck on October 13, 2008. His song "Blood Bank" would later be featured on the ending scene of the March 23rd episode. Bon Iver's track "The Wolves (Act I and II)" was featured in season 4 of Grey's Anatomy on May 15, 2008 in the episode "Losing My Mind," later, "Skinny Love" was used in the series' season 5 premier, and most recently, "Re: Stacks" was used in the episode "Beat Your Heart Out" on February 5, 2009.<"ref>HipsterWave.com entry The track "Re: Stacks" was also played during the season 4 finale "Wilson's Heart" of the TV show House M.D. on May 19, 2008. On September 8, 2008, Bon Iver made their debut performance on national TV with the track "Flume" as guests on NBC's "Late Night with Conan O'Brien". Flume and Blindsided were featured on One Tree Hill's episode "What Comes After the Blues," which was aired on May 15, 2008. Flume was featured in the UK teen drama series Skins on episode seven of series three, which aired on 5th March, 2009. Woods was also featured in the following week's episode. On the March 8, 2009, "Wolves (Act I and II)" was featured in the United States of Tara episode titled "Abundance". On March 30, 2009, the track "Blood Bank" was featured on episode 2.18 of NBC's Chuck.

Justin Vernon?
Why am I redirected to Bon Iver from Justin Vernon?

Just fyi, Justin Vernon is separate from Bon Iver, and Mr. Vernon has released music under hia name. Perhaps there should be one biographical page about Justin Vernon, and within the article discuss Bon Iver and his latest project, Volcano Choir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.150.35 (talk) 03:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. --BaronLarf 03:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

New images available
A number of new images have become available at Commons:Category:Bon Iver. I'd appreciate it if someone took a look and added any suitable images to the article. Thanks, Quibik (talk) 21:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Correct album title for June 2011 release?
Vernon's label, Jagjaguwar, is now listing the title of the new album as "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" on Bon Iver's website. I'm not changing it yet because there's an essay by Michael Perry in two places of the website, once on the main page for the album and once in a blog entry, and italicizing differs between the two regarding the title. Still, the essay only makes sense if the correct title is "Bon Iver, Bon Iver," and, as I said, it's very clearly listed as such on that page in a manner one simply can't argue against. Here's the page: http://jagjaguwar.com/onesheet.php?cat=JAG135. The novelty of this information is still keeping me from changing it, but somebody else might see if they can cross-reference this info with other sources. 98.223.71.136 (talk) 08:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

In this interview (http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7989-bon-iver/) with Pitchfork, Justin Vernon himself seems to settle the confusion that the title of the album is indeed "Bon Iver, Bon Iver". 46.239.122.131 (talk) 11:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The correct title is beyond a shadow of a doubt Bon Iver, Bon Iver. They themselves use Bon Iver, Bon Iver. They said on Twitter they do not care which one people use, but Bon Iver, Bon Iver is definitely the correct title. It should be changed. --Our Lady Overkill (talk) 11:36, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The correct title is "Bon Iver", without a shadow of doubt. Justlaugh (talk) 12:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is right, the correct title is 'Bon Iver', as they just insert a comma in between the eponymous title and the band name. So, technically the album should be just 'Bon Iver' and the album page should be Bon Iver (album). Snoop God (talk) 10:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And, with the album charting in the US, it is credited as Bon Iver on billboard.com, not Bon Iver, Bon Iver. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 14:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The 4AD website here clearly calls it Bon Iver, Bon Iver. There isn't really any question that this isn't its title, so can people stop changing it please.--Michig (talk) 08:07, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The link you are using is lifted from the original press release, which as discussed many times on both album and artist discussion pages, was fairly ambiguous, and Vernon himself stated that they wanted to do something different by adding the comma "as a slant". But also this link that you are using to cite the correct title has seven separate references calling it 'Bon Iver'. Also, the 4AD cat number (the most definitive source, surely) calls it Bon Iver! 92.40.84.123 (talk) 10:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * 4AD clearly states the title as Bon Iver, Bon Iver, as does his US label, and the artist has stated that the album's title is Bon Iver, Bon Iver ("press materials and retail outlets refer to the album as Bon Iver, but Vernon has indicated that the title is Bon Iver, Bon Iver."). What more do you need?--Michig (talk) 11:06, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If think, we respect, you fail to grasp the concept, which is why the press, publishing, retail, all call it 'Bon Iver'. If the title was Bon Iver, Bon Iver, they would call it Bon Iver, Bon Iver - Bon Iver. To be definitive, you surely have to differ to the music writers and publications who call it Bon Iver, as they really should know how to format it. 92.40.84.123 (talk) 11:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A lot of 'press, publishing, retail' appear to have looked at the cover and decided for themselves that the title is Bon Iver - a common mistake apparently. Surely you don't think these people are more authoritative than Vernon himself?--Michig (talk) 11:30, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you think the retailers and music journalists get the info by looking on the internet? The record labels and physical/digital distribution company provide and submit the info/data, often months in advance. 92.40.84.123 (talk) 11:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

92.40.84.123 is right and makes some valid points. We should listen to the music writers. I know I'm going over the same ground but they simply use the to seperate the artist and the album title. So it should be 'Bon Iver' by Bon Iver or Bon Iver - Bon Iver, but not Bon Iver, Bon Iver - Bon Iver. The album article should be Bon Iver (album). Thanks. Snoop God (talk) 12:27, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * So to sum up, Justin Vernon has stated that the album's title is Bon Iver, Bon Iver (see the Pitchfork article), as have his record labels, but music writers and shops are split between Bon Iver and Bon Iver, Bon Iver. There is no consensus here either way as yet. So how do we reach a consensus here rather than continuing the cycle of edit-warring that has been going on for a week, and avoid people needing to be blocked?--Michig (talk) 13:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And just in case anyone thought that music writers were all calling it Bon Iver, there are several examples where writers clearly call it Bon Iver, Bon Iver, e.g. TIME, Glide, Sun''.--Michig (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Well done, Michig for dredging that one up. The guy who wrote that was probably looking on Wikipedia, Silly man. I am aghast just how people cannot get a grip of this. Snoop Dog especially has explained it perfectly (several times) and others have succinctly done the same. The only correct title is "Bon Iver".
 * Buy the CD and play it on your pc and it automatically calls it Bon Iver.
 * Look on the official charts and they call it Bon Iver.
 * Look at the reviews and they call it Bon Iver.
 * Buy it from iTunes and Amazon and they call it Bon Iver.
 * Steam on Last.fm and Spotify and they call it Bon Iver.
 * Look on the official 4ad and Bon Iver YouTube channels and they call it Bon Iver. Massivelyoverrated (talk) 13:47, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * FYI, I asked a RFC at Talk:Bon_Iver,_Bon_Iver. If you want to comment, do it, but understand that it is not a poll, and if you want to support an alternative say why. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  21:07, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Is the article just too long?
Whilst I'm not doubting all the information is accurate, the sheer size of this article discourages me from ploughing all the way through it. This reduces the effectiveness of the project. Just a thought. Ender&#39;s Shadow Snr (talk) 23:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. It is a bit long, and does tend to read a little on the boring side. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 23:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Blood Bank EP?
It looks like all mention of his Blood Bank EP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Bank_(EP) has been removed. Is there a reason to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosmo-san (talk • contribs) 04:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Simple, it has been moved here. — Quibus (talk) 08:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted content in inappropriate section
The following was in the section for the reception of For Emma:


 * Josh Jackson reviewed Bon Iver for Paste, saying, "It retains the beautiful melancholy of For Emma, but in nearly every way, it’s just more. More layered, more diverse, more interesting. He brings in collaborators to do what they do best, but never at the expense of his sound and vision. It treads into new sonic directions without getting lost." He gave the album a score of nine out of ten.

It is clearly a review of Bon Iver - Bon Iver. I deleted it and did not move it. 174.67.214.168 (talk)


 * Why did you not move it? It would have been fine in the Self-titled Second album section. Akihironihongo (talk) 12:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Dark Twisted Fantasy error?
The part of the article that talks about his contributions to Kanye West's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" says that "Monster" and "Lost In The World" are the first and last tracks, but they aren't. I am going to delete this small error. --24.184.33.38 (talk) 18:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Bonnie Bear

 * Isn't this his nickname? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.148.165 (talk) 00:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Um...whose nickname? (And you do know Bon Iver is a band, not one person, don't you?)  Erpert  Who is this guy? 11:10, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Band members?

 * The article infobox, the section on band members, and Template:Bon Iver have a different number of band members listed. Which is correct?  Erpert  Who is this guy? 11:10, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Taylor Swift
Hello, Please note that Taylor Swift is not associated with Bon Iver as they collaborated on one song together. According to Template:Infobox musical artist, one song isn’t enough to put that 2 artists/bands are associated. Please do not add Swift to the Associated Acts section, as this would be false. If they collaborate multiple times in the future, and meet the criteria of the Infobox, feel free to add Swift to the Associated Acts section. A writing credit isn’t enough, and that is all we have at this point. Thanks so much! Please also note that this talk is on Justin Vernon as well. Thanks! Doggy54321 (talk) 15:59, 26 July 2020 (UTC)