Talk:Bone Gnawers (World of Darkness)

from VfD: As with the Warhammer 4000 stuff, the master article redlinks every single tribe, creature, and device, so the anon who created this article can't be blamed. Trivial game material. If you have the manual, you have this. If you don't have the manual, go to GameFAQs. Geogre 17:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge the tribe articles into Werewolf: The Apocalypse tribes. Incidentally, GameFAQs wouldn't have this sort of material. -Sean Curtin 20:00, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete w/out merging: subtrivial fancruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ambi 08:12, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Of no relevence seperate from the game. Average Earthman 11:15, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. All the tribes are reldinked. The Shadow Lords, Black Furies and Fianna aren't under deletion. If you have the manual you can read all the stuff in article, so we can delete all the articles about all RpGs. It would be as delete an article on the Battle of Monte Cassaino as a trivial stuff in the World War. You can take a book and read about it. Gilmor 17:14, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Only edits by User:Gilmor are to this vfd discussion . Wile E. Heresiarch 23:07, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, and how many people's lives have been affected by World War II vs. Werewolf: the Apocalypse? And was World War II a game?  You'll note that any other articles spun off from the game will also end up on VfD, if this one fails, and in my nomination I recommended that the minor stuff get unlinked. Geogre 18:36, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: we have lots of multi-article games, as we should. (Chess, Go, Bridge, ect), even new games (Magic: The Gathering, D&D). I surely hope you don't want to delete those articles. However, I essentually agree with you that there should be a standard of notability This game surely isn't notable enough to merit articles for all of those red links. Possibly not notable enough to deserve this article, but I hope you don't use this as a precedent against games. CHL 23:35, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: FWIW, I'm not against game coverage per se, but I'm against breakouts of items from games. To me, a new and separate article is justified only when a thing is sufficiently different from its master subject as to need separate discussion, sufficiently notable as to be sought outside of its master context, or sufficiently involved as to need the space.  That's why it looks like I'm "against" Big metal box and other game items:  they should be discussed in their natural context.  I usually vote merge and redirect, if it is substantial, but something like the 2 paragraphs of player races found in the manuals just isn't encyclopedic content. Geogre 00:37, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep, it seems worthy of a page to me. -- Old Right 22:48, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, there's plenty of material in the Whitewolf world to write a decent article about each tribe. -- Creidieki 07:52, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP - Information from other fantasy games are in wikipedia. Therefore this should stay. -- Crevaner 16:11, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge, no redirect back into parent. Remove parent's redlinks --Improv 16:29, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. Failing that, merge into the main article.  This stub can not be understood outside the context of the main article and has no possibility of expansion.  Main article is not so large or complex that this content can not be added. Rossami 03:11, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. The amount of published info from White Wolf is large enough that articles can actually be written about all the tribes. --Lowellian 19:40, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * However, the article should be moved to simply Bone Gnawers and then rewritten to make clear that this is a fictional tribe in a game world. --Lowellian 19:41, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

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