Talk:Bono people

Name of the ivory coast
Seeing as this is the English wikipedia, should the name of the Ivory Coast be in English, rather than Côte d'Ivoire? I feel that it is a little unclear to most audiences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xevus11 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Move proposal
I strongly believe the title should be changed to Bono tribe because in Ghana, no one knows of the tribe called Abron unless the orginal called Bono which is anglicize as Brong. Kindly consider my suggestion. thanksBosomba Amosah (talk) 01:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I was able to find 2 uses of the name "Abron" and, and what about the dialect at Abron dialect, should the name of that article be changed too? –  Brandon XLF  (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes everything should be change to "Bono" instead. We were all initially called Bono until British-French demarcation that resulted in the creation of Ghana and La Cote Divoire. Those of us in Ghana originally maintained the original name called "Bono" which is anglicised as "Brong". However, our brothers in La Cote Divoire are called "Abron", which is in French language. We are nowhere in Ghana called "Abron" but rather "Bono". We believe this is the English version of Wikipedia, so our name should be held as Bono whilst our brothers in La Cote Divoire should be held as Abron in the French version of wikipedia. Else the name "Abron" overrides the original name "Bono", which is not supposed to be so. So the "Abron dialect" should also be changed to "Bono dialect". And everything should be changed to "Bono" in a whole because we are Bono people. ThanksBosomba Amosah (talk) 01:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 22 April 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved buidhe 01:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

– Please the name should be changed to "Bono" instead. We were all initially called Bono until British-French demarcation that resulted in the creation of Ghana and La Cote Divoire. Those of us in Ghana originally maintained the original name called "Bono" which is anglicised as "Brong". However, our brothers in La Cote Divoire are called "Abron", which is in French language. We are nowhere in Ghana called "Abron" but rather "Bono". We believe this is the English version of Wikipedia, so our name should be held as Bono whilst our brothers in La Cote Divoire should be held as Abron in the French version of wikipedia. Else the name "Abron" overrides the original name "Bono", which is not supposed to be so. So the "Abron dialect" should also be changed to "Bono dialect". And everything should be changed to "Bono" in a whole because we are Bono people. Thanks https://www.britannica.com/place/Bono-historical-state-Africa https://books.google.com.gh/books?id=Wa9WAAAAYAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=bono. https://books.google.com.gh/books?id=InYSAQAAIAAJ&q=Bono&dq=Disease,+Medicine,+and+Religion+Among+the+Techinan+-+Bono+of+Ghana:+A+Study+in+Culture+Change&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=5 https://books.google.com.gh/books?id=F3lyAAAAMAAJ&q=Bono&dq=akan+history+of+origin+by+eva&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=5 https://books.google.com.gh/books?id=9CU1AQAAIAAJ&dq=akan+history+of+origin+by+eva&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=bono Bosomba Amosah (talk) 01:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Abron tribe → Bono people
 * Abron dialect → Bono dialect

Support
 * I am an Akan and "Bono" in precision. I live in Ghana. Our name is "Bono" and not "Abron". Even the regions in Ghana says it all; we have Bono region, Bono East Region. I don't even know why Abron is attached to our name. So please we are "Bono people" and we speak "Bono dialect". Thanks Sacrifice06 (talk) 20:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Issues with this article
As it stands, the article has multiple issues with it, including the following:


 * It's poorly written, often incoherent, and difficult to read or make sense of.
 * Much of the information in it is unnecessary, e.g., "In the olden days, among the Bonos if a woman gives birth for the first time this is referred to as her abonowoo" - what relevance does this have to the article to be its fourth sentence?
 * It's written from a pro-Bono (heh) nationalist perspective, e.g. "Bono is the genesis and cradle of Akan", which reads like "French is the genesis and cradle of Roman".
 * Weirdly, there are many links to articles on self-explanatory things - why link "umbrellas" or "currency"?

I've attempted to sort these issues out, but they've been reverted several times over. This needs a rewrite if it's to be any good. Lingvulo (talk) 08:00, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Alright lets do it the formal way as you wish, but i believe the "issue templates" are many, one is enough and you could be attended to. On the other note, your statement "French is the... of Roman" is a misstatemennt, it should rather be "Italy is the... of Roman".
 * I believe this article is properly written and well organised for lucidity.
 * I believe "In the olden days, among the Bonos if a woman... abonowoo", this information is a complementary to the meaning of Bono, i hope you have gotten it now.
 * Yes Bono is the "genesis and cradle of Akan", there is no doubt about, Historians have confirmed this several times, even if you visit Ghana right now, the various members of Akans would corroborate this. All the same, if you have access to read those cited books, it would confirm it. For instance [1 ], [2 ]. You can also read "A history of Ghana" by F.K. Buah, Adu Boahens books on Akans, Effah Gyamfi's books etc.
 * The linking as you described as self explanatory is everywhere on Wikipedia platforms, you can visit many articles to find out.

After considering your submission on the issue, the only issue to be given a mileage is "In the olden... her abonowoo", even with that, it is underpinning the incipient statement. Thnaks. Sacrifice06 (talk) 08:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I'll try doing this in respective order.
 * With all due respect, while your command of English is fine, it doesn't appear to be quite good enough to know what constitutes an academic, Wikipedia-appropriate style. To me, as someone whose native language is English, the effort you've put into it is obvious, but the actual result clearly isn't "properly written" or "well organised for lucidity". I've tried to edit several articles to fix these errors, but you've just edited them back. Trust me when I say they don't sound all that great to an anglophone ear. (For instance, "French is the genesis and cradle of Roman" is supposed to be wrong, to highlight what's wrong with "Bono is the genesis and cradle of Akan". The errors in the phrasing of both are obvious to native English speakers.)
 * That information belongs in the Etymology section, not in the introduction. It also needs more clarification: there's nothing connecting any of the statements to any other or explaining the relevance of each piece of information. I've moved it there for now.
 * The two sources you've linked there are travel guides, which are notorious for getting small details wrong. For cities, landmarks, etc., they'd be an acceptable source, but not for the history of a civilization. I've not been able to find links to the other two, but I suspect there are similar issues there as well.
 * Articles are supposed to link all relevant articles, not all conceivable articles. If you go to e.g. Philosophy, you'll notice that "question", "study", "presentation" etc. aren't linked to anything, because it's assumed the reader will know what those things are, and they're not immediately relevant to the article.

I understand and appreciate your enthusiasm in editing these articles, but please be open to other people editing what you've written, such as on the Bono state page, where the only edits I've made are to clean up the English.

Lingvulo (talk) 16:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Please first of all lets set things straight, i believe you are Spanish, all the same you can be an English. English is my official language and Ghana as well is an Anglophone country. You should first know i did not put those information there, im just an editor. Upon a critical look into those information, i believe it's comprehensible. You should as well try to accommodate others opinion. Please we would visit the languages tomorrow. Thanks. Sacrifice06 (talk) 23:21, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Your edit is not just to correct grammar or rectify mistakes, it however ends in clearing a peculiar information. I think i have already rectify this statement; it should be "Italy is the genesis and cradle of Roman" because Rome is not in France but rather Italy. "Bono is the cradle and genesis of Akan", this statement is authentically and grammatically correct, this statement was written by the English historians themselves and Ghanaians as well.
 * Please you asked for reference, and i gave it, there is no need to prolong it again, however if you still insist, you can equally find this statements in "History of Ghana" Chapter 2 page 9, written by F.K. Buah(English Nationalist), Effah Gyamfi's book, Adu Boahen's book, all these people are renowned historians.
 * The information you moved to etymology section, well i believe its ok.
 * But one thing, all the information there, none of them is a made up, all those information can be found in those cited books. The etymology's information can be found in a "profile of Bono(Brong) Kyempem...". The other information can be found in Eva Meyerowitz's books, Dennis M. Warris books and others. So there was no need to bring "cited needed" unless maybe you dont read those books.