Talk:Borassus flabellifer

Is this Borassus flabellifer?
Are these seeds of Borassus flabellifer? Photo Badagnani 08:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * yes to my understanding the jelly part of the fruit is the seed and is eaten in various ways, sometimes fresh, sometimes crunchy...--Tallard 09:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Vietnamese name
Is the Vietnamese name thốt nốt châu Á? Badagnani 08:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict
Hey Badagnani, sorry about the edit conflict. I just had to save the mess once before overhauling it. Your contributions are in there. I am missing taxobox information, is that in your line of expertise?--Tallard 09:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Borassus flabellifer propagation nursery
I am going to Papua New Guinea to build a nursery to propagate 10,000 Borassus flabellifer plants from seed. From what I gather about propagation it is easy but they require soaking. I aim to plant the seed direct into 1 liter bags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marksbaird0211 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

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Name in other languages
Tad Gola - hindi Thehoodedface (talk) 13:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Merging Palmyra fruit
If you propose a merge, please start a merge discussion and link to it - not much point otherwise...

FWIW, I support a merge - the "main article" is shorter and has less content than the section here, and there's no expectation that it would grow to proportions that would require a separate standalone article. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 12:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Nahm-Taan versus Nahm-Taal
In Thailand, the L at the end of a word is pronounced as an N, therefore I suggest Romanized spelling to use an N at the end instead of an L. Is there a standard for Thai Romanization that is used in Wikipedia? NicoLaan (talk) 10:09, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Diffusion history in Thailand
This free paper listed on DOAJ affirms that Borassus flabellifer has been introduced "to new areas due to various beneficial purposes including medicines, ornament, and food".

It is believed to be "brought through the Straits of Malacca to be propagated in the southern Thailand as one of the invasive events before spreading to the central Thailand." Subsequently, it had a second step of diffusion which "likely occurred in Khmer Empire, currently Cambodia, before spreading to the northeastern Thailand."

Those informations aren't yet in the article. I think they can be hopefully integrated citing this source. Any comment would be appreciated.Micheledisaveriosp (talk) 23:14, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Palm shell into Borassus flabellifer
No need for separate article - any new content and useful references should be added to the existing section. Note that there seems to be overlap between Borassus (to which the redirect Palmyra palm currently targets) and Borassus flabellifer. Some cleanup is needed, perhaps. Pam D  09:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Disagree. Recently (few months ago) there was a long and warm discussion of changing the name of Vaccinium vitis-idaea to Lingonberry. In that discussion, quite a few WikiProject_Plants people argued that it seems better to keep food and plants separate. A food has certain characteristics, plants have others, and keeping them separate seems to work better. Bluntly, food is predom. culture, plants have science mainly (personally it is also the culture of plants that interest me, but I am from the social sciences). I don't think the proposal will have much support from WP Plants people. Speaking personally, I would prefer that Palm shell and Borassus flabellifer are separate, but linked. I will post this proposal at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants for people to see. Brunswicknic (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Note that the creating editor of Palm shell now agrees that the term is wrong, and has replaced it throughout by "Palmyra palm fruit" - see this edit and its summary. I see there was also a previous merge of Palmyra fruit into Borassus flabellifer.  Pam  D  12:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've had enough of this mess and will take the pages off my watchlist. A very new editor has just added a load of copyvio content to Palmyra palm fruit (i've moved it to that title), referring to it as Ice apple. Which is currently a redirect to this page, not the fruit page. What they were adding was fully of dubious medical claims too. Enough and goodbye. Pam  D  19:09, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

On the behalf of Palm Shell merge
Food and plants has separate things. A food has certain properties where plants have others. So it would be better if keeping them into sperate article. Obviously, there should be a paragraph of food inside the article of plant. But it does mean that there would not be present a different article for a food. So I personally fell that it would be kept in a different article. I also agree with Brunswicknic and he highlights very good point also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpagla (talk • contribs) 18:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)