Talk:Borderline personality disorder

Typo
In the manipulation section:

"In one research study, 88% of therapists reported that they have experinced manipualtion attempts from patient(s)." 144.118.77.123 (talk) 19:24, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks! Dawnseeker2000  21:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

paragraph duplication
The two paragraphs before the symptoms title contain the same information with different phrasings. 2A02:14F:17C:B4EE:0:0:1B0B:339B (talk) 01:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that, fixed. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Article is too big
At almost 10,000 words this article should definitely be trimmed, per WP:TOOBIG. I suggest we create articles for some sections, such as Causes of borderline personality disorder (redirect to the "Causes" section), diagnosis, signs and symptoms; like we already do for management and misdiagnosis.  The Blue  Rider   16:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree, I’ve done copyediting to most of the current content. Snipping out excess or twice-repeated content. However, for the most part it was just fact checking, updating some facts that play an important role, and letting it all flow nicely. I’m sitting with the following facts after my huge copyedit:
 * Causes should be grouped into three: genetic, neurobiologic, psychosocial. And then we expand if so on the new research into that.
 * In diagnosis, we put the criteria into prose, possibly removing the subtypes or prosing the subtypes by Millon as I haven’t seen their substantiveness in all the medical literature I’ve read there isn’t much mention of them?
 * Adolescence should move more forward or to a separate section termed prodrome where like schizophrenia there may be a prodrome or adolescence behaviour pre-disease pattern prior to developing the disease, as this is so “pervasive” unlike a mood disorder there is a prodrome of sorts I’ve picked up on although that is original research.
 * The differential diagnosis section is giving me the “ick”. It’s very overwhelming as summarised BPD can occur comorbid with a lot of other conditions, and not so typically talked about vice versa, if you get what I mean. And it speaks of the statistics in the old terms of Axis I and II instead of Sections I and II and I think we should speak of them in comorbid other personality d/o and comorbid other mental d/o (like mood d/o, trauma d/o etc.)
 * Management I need to tackle the main article, then we can filter what needs to be there knit pick onto the BPD article, maybe by {transclusion}? -- I’ve never done that before so you’re suggestions would be appreciated.
 * Epi I touched a little with the latest stats
 * Prognosis and History and Controversies I haven’t touched at all!!
 * What do you think? waddie96 ★ (talk) 15:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with all the points, I will start by putting the criteria into prose.  The Blue  Rider  Postal horn icon.svg 17:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @The Blue Rider I don't think there's anything wrong with it being long it provides the most information 45.19.219.33 (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Good day, and welcome to Wikipedia. See Welcome and Article size. waddie96 ★ (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Why does Edvard Munch get to have this disorder posthumously awarded to him?
Isn't it a basic principle in psychiatry that you have to meet someone in person before you can tell what mental illnesses he has? But some Danish dude writes an article and now it's a "sourced fact". Well good on you, Danish dude, I hope no one writes an article calling you a manic depressive, for example, because that would obviously become a fact. 212.3.197.113 (talk) 21:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed - this is a tiresome hobby of medics, which journals are too ready to publish, often in their Xmas issues. Johnbod (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The role of Wikipedia is as an encyclopedia summarizing what reliable sources have said. These are reliable sources. Our job as an enclyopedia is not to do original research and determine whether Munch had BPD.
 * Since it is reliably sourced, it should stay in the article.
 * TypistMonkey (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)