Talk:Bori

A virtual pet
Hi Leschnei

I need your help.

If this
 * Bori, a virtual pet (Neopet), further described on pinkpt.com

violates some wp rules, then please tell me: how can we keep or present the information in a wp conform way?

Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 15:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * disambiguation pages should lead readers to existing content. Neopets doesn't mention Bori, or other any other neopets, suggesting that the company is more wp:notable than the individual characters. In Pokemon, character names are mostly found in "List of" articles. Perhaps it would be best to wait for (or create) a "List of Neopets" article, and use that article to support adding the most important neopets to disambiguation pages. Leschnei (talk) 22:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Leschnei, for answering right after you returned to the wp.

I hope you don't mind that I indented your above post.
 * (Petty note)

I've prepared something for you: user:Steue.
 * Non-notable items

I think, this makes clear that some non-notable items are OK on a list. And I consider a disambiguation page to be a kind of list. So, I would consider that these rules about lists also apply to disambiguation pages.

Practically every page about wikipedia rules contains at it's top this box stating:
 * External links

(in excerpts:)

... that editors should attempt to follow ...,

''... though it is best treated with common sense ... ''

and

... occasional exceptions may apply.

If a non-notable item on a disambiguation page is the only mention in a wikipedia, I would consider this to warrant an exception re. external links, even more so as this external page is in another wiki (although not a wikipedia), and seems to explain the topic quite correct.

This was intended as an explanation of my term "virtual pet". I would support, to change it to e.g. "a virtual pet (more about virtual pets can be found in Neopets)". This would make it clear, I think, that the article "Neopets" does not cover "Bori".
 * The link to the article Neopets

Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 06:59, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I disagree with you statement above "If a non-notable item on a disambiguation page is the only mention in a wikipedia, I would consider this to warrant an exception re. external links". I would argue that an item that isn't mentioned anywhere except on a disambiguation page either needs to be added to an article or removed. And wikis (including Wikipedia) are never considered to be wp:reliable sources.


 * I'm not sure if you are familiar with the guidelines for disambiguation pages - they are different from articles. MOS:DABEXT states very clearly that external links should not be included; the same is true for references. References and, if needed, external links, should be found in the article discussing the relevant subject (Bori, in this case).


 * However, if Bori were discussed in an existing article or list article, it could be included as a WP:DABMENTION. This solution would be much less likely to be reverted. Leschnei (talk) 12:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Leschnei, do you agree that it is OK to have


 * Bori, a virtual pet

on this DAB?

Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 13:13, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * If Bori is mentioned in an existing article, then Bori could be added as a WP:DABMENTION, otherwise - no (in my opinion). Have you searched for other articles that might mention these virtual pets, just in case? And, you could also post a question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation, if you want other opinions. Leschnei (talk) 13:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)