Talk:Boron porphyrins

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 September 2018 and 11 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Johbrbr. Peer reviewers: Nblewis, Griffen.desroches.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 18:15, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

5.05 Peer Review
Formatting -	Intro paragraph: “While boron has been shown to prefer binding to porphyrin in a 2:1 stoichiometry,…” - citation needed here -	Should include a citation for the 1:1 corrole binding as well -	Line four of intro should read “to which both boron and porphyrin are subjected to…” -	What is a dyad? Keep in mind that this article is intended for the general public, not necessarily for an MIT audience in particular -	Synthesis graphics should remain in the synthesis section. Can insert a frameless svg into the section itself to avoid awkward placement -	In general, your references should appear at the first time the material is mentioned in the article. For example, the reference for the 1:1 B:corrole binding ratio should come in the intro section, rather than later in the article. -	Furthermore, if a source is used in multiple sections, it’s entirely acceptable (even recommended) to link the reference to said source in each of the sections. -	The same references appear multiple times: o	References 1 and 2 o	References 3 and 7 o	References 4 and 9 o	References 11, 12, 22, 23 o	References 15 and 17 -	The figures needn’t be placed off to the side in frames. Again, converting the image to “frameless” format can alleviate this. -	 Reduction section: Second sentence should read “… was able to demonstrate that reductive coupling… only occurs with…”

Scientific content: -	For BX2 reductive coupling, Brothers et al. mention that it was found to be spontaneous for X = I as well as X = Br. The steric strain seems to increase proportionally as the halide gets heavier. -	Given the strange geometries that can come into play (such as the in/out of plane geometry with a bridging oxygen), what kind of B-N bond lengths can one expect in such a system? And do they depend on the identity of any other groups attached to boron? -	Some Belcher/Brothers papers (ref 11 and 4, respectively) contain B-O an B-X bond lengths – perhaps comment on those if you think it’s relevant. -	Several papers use the change in N---N distance within porphyrin as a proxy for ring strain – may want to make mention of this.

Overall, a great degree of care and attention to detail went into this article. Some formatting errors/hiccups need to be smoothed out, and more information from some of the source material could be implemented further flesh out the reactivity/ring strain behavior.

Griffen.desroches (talk) 22:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * And what about commenting on the quality of an article with respect to Wikipedia vs homework grading?
 * Are the references appropriate vs WP:SECONDARY? (hint: seems a little specialized)
 * avoid any original research vs WP:OR, a very strict guideline in Wikipedia?
 * Again, its probably nice homework, but Wikipedia is not about homework but a consensus-guided, tone-sensitive (encyclopedic) product.--Smokefoot (talk) 00:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Possible GA article
- Greetings, while doing article assessments (with Rater assessment tool) I see that the ORES rating is for GA. Instead, I changed article to C quality. Since chemistry is totally outside my knowledge-base I thought you might be interested in reviewing this article. Overall the article seems to be complete, could use a "See also" section, and is tagged as being "Orphan". Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 12:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed this at the time, I just noticed it among old notifications. I think C looks OK for now, and B may be appropriate.  I'll also see if I can integrate it more into the general encyclopedia so it's not orphaned. Thx Walkerma (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)