Talk:Borup, Køge Municipality

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

– Improper disambiguation. Cities and towns in Denmark are not generally following the US "City, State" pattern. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Borup, Køge Municipality → Borup (Køge Municipality)
 * Ejby, Køge Municipality → Ejby (Køge Municipality)
 * Ejby, Lejre Municipality → Ejby (Lejre Municipality)
 * Ejby, Middelfart Municipality → Ejby (Middelfart Municipality)
 * Svenstrup, Aalborg Municipality → Svenstrup (Aalborg Municipality)
 * Oppose: Per naming conventions (it would help if the proposer read them).  Standard pattern for geographic places is to disambiguate by comma worldwide (not just North America).  Has absolutely nothing to do with North American "City, State" pattern.  Skinsmoke (talk) 02:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: The exact current wordings on WP:NCGN on the comma convention is that "Any specific national convention takes precedence though". However, it also says in the last paragraph of that section that "If specific disambiguation conventions apply to places of a particular type or in a particular country, then it is important to follow these". I do not see a country-specific guideline for article titles on Danish settlements, but WP:NCGN#Disambiguation also says, "If a country has no convention listed, and there is a clear pattern among the articles on places in that country, follow it". Unfortunately, when I took a quick glance at the subcategories of Category:Cities and towns in Denmark by region it was inconsistent. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: The North American "City, State" naming convention is used whether the place name is ambiguous or not (except for some 20 big cities). Thus, whether the State tag is a disambiguator is debatable. You might as well say that it (in most cases) eliminates the need for a disambiguator. So, the cases are not directly comparable. Moreover, if "Xxxxx, Yyyyyy Municipality" were the naming convention for Danish cities, then all of them would be named that way, regardless of whether they are ambiguous with cities in other countries or not, wouldn't they? HandsomeFella (talk) 10:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment (transcluded from similar discussion at Talk:Hatting, Denmark) (why are two identical discussions going on in different places?): A lot of very selective quoting from Naming conventions (geographic names) going on here.  What that page actually says is:


 * That is a guideline. It is backed up by the policy at Article titles, which states:


 * In these cases, there is no national convention that advises parenthetical disambiguation, so we stick with the usual convention, which is to use commas. It really is a bit naughty to try and change that convention by drip-feeding a handful of places.  If you want to change it, propose a change at Wikipedia talk:Article titles.  However, if you succeed, I expect those advocating change to spend the next two years changing the hundreds of thousands of articles that will be affected.
 * Incidentally, it is disingenuous to argue here that these articles should not follow the "North American pattern of disambiguating by comma", when those same people were arguing last week on North American articles that those articles should not follow the "European pattern of disambiguating by comma" Did you really think nobody would remember?  Skinsmoke (talk) 12:36, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comments added on Talk:Hatting, Denmark. HandsomeFella (talk) 16:05, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose. My reasons are at Talk:Hatting, Denmark. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:22, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.