Talk:Bosnian War

Turning the tide and ending the war.
The lead claims that Nato intervention (after Srebrenica and Markale) lead to end of the war "NATO intervened in 1995 with Operation Deliberate Force targeting the positions of the Army of the Republika Srpska, which proved key in ending the war". The body of the article implies that Pakistani supplied anti tank missiles achieved much the same effect "which ultimately turned the tide in favour of Bosnian Muslims and forced the Serbs to lift the siege" - the siege of Sarajevo I presume, though it is unstated there.

The two statements are not WHOLLY inconsistent, but they substantially clash and to a degree contradict each other. I'm not very familiar with the military aspects of the war, but wonder if anyone could fix/clarify/align the body and article texts. Pincrete (talk) 05:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

SFRY as participants
User:SRofSerbia, I believe that there was a fairly long-term consensus from some time ago that SFRY was never meaningfully engaged in the Bosnian war, even though SFRY had not formally legally dissolved in the first few weeks of the war, before Serbia and Montenegro became FRY.

Also, the claim indicated/implied by your edit's arrow is that SFRY became FRY in 1992, this claim, is not supported by international recognition AFAIK. Serbia and Montenegro (ie FRY) claimed to be the legitimate inheritors of SFRY, but was/were not recognised as such. Pincrete (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

There are many well documented instances of direct military engagement of JNA / VJ (Yugoslav Peoples Army) units on the Bosnian territory, often as supporting elements to VRS units (case in point Operation Pancir 2 - the assault on Orahov Brijeg in a failed push towards Hum around Sarajevo), but sometimes also engaged in standalone operations (see Uzicki Korpus - Uzice Corps - and their many engagements in operations in eastern Bosnia).

Also instances of JNA air force engagements and sorties, and various forces that acted as paramilitaries (usually led by Serbian criminals - see Arkan, Ulemek Legija) directly supported by SFRY / FRY top leadership.

SFRY / FRY was involved very closely in all events of the Bosnian war and not rarely directly with their own units.

The argument that the Bosnian war was a civil war is incomplete at best and revisionist at worst - Milosevic was trying to exploit the political crisis of Yugoslavia in aims of achieving an ethnically homogenous and territorialy contigous de facto Greater Serbia - and there was carefully preplanned and executed manouvering in order to have plausible deniability of the now undeniable and demonstrable fact of SFRY / FRY direct conventional miliary involvement let alone involvement in terms of logistical, expert support and hybrid/unconventional/covert operations. Nitroerg542 (talk) 23:43, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

"Course of War"
I'm reading this part in the section "Course of War":

"Shellings on Sarajevo on 24, 26, 28 and 29 May were attributed to Mladić by UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Civilian casualties of a 27 May shelling of the city led to Western intervention, in the form of sanctions imposed on 30 May through United Nations Security Council Resolution 757."

And I'm trying to figure out why it's written this way, short of the reason being that it almost lifted walmost directly from the source material. Was the shelling on the 27th of May not also attributed to Mladic? Is it written simply to highlight that the 27th was important? Because even if that's the case, there is still no reason to remove that date from the list of dates in the sentence immediately prior to it. Criticalthinker (talk) 04:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, in the Belligerents sections of the infobox, specifically the "May 1992–94:" why isn't the FR Yugoslavia again mentioned as a belligerent. They are listed in both the previous and proceeding time frames in the infobox. As far as I can tell, they were still very much "Support" for Republika Srpska and Krajina during the Bosniak-Croat conflict which this period covers. FR Yugoslavia didn't just stop fighting from 1992-1994. Criticalthinker (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2023 (UTC)