Talk:Bosnian genocide

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Requested for protection
I've requested an increase in protection against IP's violating NPOV or just simply doing vandalism in the recent past. Request can be seen here. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:03, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Changed link to archived request. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2022
pls let me edit this, I wanna do good for once in my miserable life. Willy Wonka C (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:36, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Lemma: Genocide vs. Ethnic Cleansing
''The Bosnian genocide (Bosnian: bosanski genocid) refers to either the Srebrenica massacre or the wider crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing campaign throughout areas controlled by the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) during the Bosnian War of 1992–1995. The events in Srebrenica in 1995 included the killing of more than 8,000 Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) men and boys, as well as the mass expulsion of another 25,000–30,000 Bosniak civilians by VRS units under the command of General Ratko Mladić.'' says the introduction.

While the Srebrenica massacre clearly was part of the ethnic cleansing during the Bosnian war, I want to cast some doubts on naming it "genocide". 8000 persons killed is a lot, but in the end the ethnical group of Bosniaks is much larger, even compared to the number of 25-30 k expulsed people. The definition from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide points out that there needs to be a mental element (intention to destroy), which we can assume was there. But recently, I learned about a serial stabber, who targeted Palestinians. Was this a genocide? Surely not, but an ethnically motivated crime. This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.” What is a substantial part of the ethnical group? According to Wikipedia, there are ~3 M Bosniaks of which 1,77 M live in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Gunnar (talk) 16:28, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Lowest estimate for number of victims of Bosnian genocide should be changed tom “8,000” to “31,107” Because considering Srebrenica alone to be a genocide is wrong when other towns (Višegrad, Foča, Prijedor, Zvornik, Vlasenica, Bijeljina etc) shared a similar fate. With this in mind the date of the genocide should also be adjusted to “1992-1995”

Additionaly it can be written that the highest estimate for number of victims of Bosnian genocide is 156,000 as the source below states. Either way the figure of 8k is used to refer to a single massacre not genocide as a whole.

Source: Burg, Steven L.; Shoup, Paul S. (1999). The War in Bosnia-Herzegovina: Ethnic Conflict and International Intervention (2nd ed.). M.E. Sharpe. ISBN 978-0-7656-3189-3. 77.77.216.26 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC) 77.77.216.149 (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2023
Lowest estimate for number of victims of Bosnian genocide should be changed tom “8,000” to “31,107” Because considering Srebrenica alone to be a genocide is wrong when other towns (Višegrad, Foča, Prijedor, Zvornik, Vlasenica, Bijeljina etc) shared a similar fate. With this in mind the date of the genocide should also be adjusted to “1992-1995”

Additionaly it can be written that the highest estimate for number of victims of Bosnian genocide is 156,000 as the source below states. Either way the figure of 8k is used to refer to a single massacre not genocide as a whole.

Source: Burg, Steven L.; Shoup, Paul S. (1999). The War in Bosnia-Herzegovina: Ethnic Conflict and International Intervention (2nd ed.). M.E. Sharpe. ISBN 978-0-7656-3189-3. 77.77.216.26 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC) 77.77.216.149 (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

(Also I accidentally wrote this edit request as reply earlier on. Sorry for that.) 77.77.216.149 (talk) 12:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This request probably requires the attention of someone familiar with the topic, perhaps @Amanuensis Balkanicus can have a look at it. (Request is also not in "change X to Y format") Xan747 (talk) 15:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)