Talk:Bounty (1960 ship)

Loss
Please cite the ref that it sank. I have seen no story that confirms its sinking. The boat was abandoned but 90% of abandoned boats tend to be found later still floating. 72.61.26.1 (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Coast-Guard-Rescue-Underway-Now-16-People-In-Lifeboats-Off-NC-Coast-176228331.html. —Diiscool (talk) 14:12, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Vice Admiral Parker also said that it sank while interviewed on Good Morning America, October 29, 2012. Rklawton (talk) 17:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Coast Guard video and story, says sunk but mast visible. http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1591791/VIDEO-UPDATE-Coast-Guard-rescues-14-continues-search-for-2-from-HMS-Bounty. —Diiscool (talk) 18:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Sad news today. Coast Guard suspends search for missing captain of HMS Bounty http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1593871/ Cowicide (talk) 19:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Death of Christian
I looked at the written references in the footnotes (someone may have time to watch the videos?) and there is nothing to support that Ms. Christian was a descendant of Fletcher Christian. I marked it but left it, presuming good faith.TjoeC (talk) 03:44, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If she IS a descendant of Mr. Christian, it is sadly ironic she perished at sea.--Zhane Masaki (talk) 06:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * She claims to be a descendant on her facebook page Claudene Christian facebook page Dabbler (talk) 08:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Why did the Bounty cruise on the North Atlantic during "Sandy"?
Does anyone know why the captain decided to cruise from Connecticut to Florida and to leave port on October 25th, although even European landrats knew a huge storm was approaching? Was it sheer incompetence / ignorance or were there some economic pressures, since the whole Bounty enterprise has been in a financial crisis? --Ischtiraki (talk) 14:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The Captain ?tweeted?(or was it facebook?) that a ship is safer at sea than in port in a storm, according to news reports. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 11:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * While it is generally safer for a vessel of this size to be at sea during a storm, the same can NEVER be said for the crew. According to "Bounty"'s itinerary, she was scheduled to be in Florida on November 10. Regards Aloha27 (talk) 14:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Any speculation here prior to the issuing of an official report by the US Coastguard or other official invesigatory body can only be considered Original Research and beyond the scope of a Wikipedia article. Dabbler (talk) 16:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Infobox
Editor Jameslwoodward left this on my talk page. Copied here because discussions about articles belong on article talk pages.


 * Why did you remove the fact that she has two John Deere diesels for propulsion? I have heard it said on the news that she had no propulsion other than her sails and that is plainly wrong, see http://www.tallshipbounty.org/the-ship/statistics.php. The bad information may well have come from the fact that WP:EN had it wrong. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs)  13:26, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I didn't delete propulsion data intentionally. There was an edit conflict when I attempted to save my changes to the infobox. Merely an oversight on my part. At the moment, the link that you have provided is dead. Also, Ship power does not refer to the electrical distribution system. See the infobox Usage guide.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:06, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Appearance in "At World's End"
The Pirates of the Caribbean Wikipedia says that the HMS Bounty only appeared in "Dead Man's Chest", as the Edinburgh Trader that was destroyed by the Kraken. I can find no information on it appearing in "At World's End". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.28.98.61 (talk) 17:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Use of HMS in the name
I'd be interested to see a citation clarifying the use the prefix 'HMS'. Had it been a UK registered ship, they might kick up a fuss about the use of 'HMS' in the name – no doubt they have a rule on that. But since it was a US registered ship, the owners would be 'entitled' to style it more or less however they wanted... the 'ABC Bounty' or the 'SOS Bounty' or even the 'HMS Bounty'. It would just be part of the name.Sydpolen (talk) 06:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * HMS isn't the ship prefix though. It could easily be called "SV HMS Bounty" if you were to attach the ship prefix. (such as how some children are given the first name "Duke" or "Prince" or "Princess") -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 06:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

USCG/NTSB hearing on Bounty Loss
The USCG and NTSB are holding a hearing on this event. it's being extensively covered at gcaptain.com the primary author of these aarticles is mario vittone, it's not print media, but rather webmedia, is that considered a reliable source?

--Patbahn (talk) 19:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I think we should wait until the NTSB has completed its report. At that point, the regular media will pick it up. It's not that I have a problem specifically with gcaptain.com - it's just that it's better to add facts rather than speculation - especially when the facts will be forthcoming. Also, the NTSB report will be published online so we can cross reference it. Rklawton (talk) 20:11, 17 February 2013 (UTC)


 * NTSB may not produce it's report for 6-24 months. Gcaptain has live summaries and is citing the

virginia pilot for other coverage so there is contemporary media coverage, and if you look at gcaptain, it's a pretty professional site. At a minimum some basic elements such as "the NTSB Held hearings for X days in Norfolk and discussed issues with crew training, ships maintenance practices and condition of interior trusses" and then reference the gcaptain and Virginia Pilot articles. Besides technically the NTSB report is a tertiary sourceisn't it? --Patbahn (talk) 05:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * NTSB report has been made public, with the finding that the Captain acted recklessly in attempting to take the vessel through Hurricane Sandy. http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/MAB1403.pdf Aloha27 (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

SpongeBob CamelCaps
This recent revision made using Twinkle looks to be a false positive of vandalism detection. The reverted change had been to change "Spongebob Squarepants" to "SpongeBob SquarePants". (That is, it was just the capitalization of two letters.) This change is surely a desirable one, and its reversion is therefore undesirable. I say this because, goofy though the CamelCaps version is, it's the actual name of the linked article. ("The Spongebob Squarepants Movie" is a redirect.) Also, the film is mentioned earlier in the same paragraph, and CamelCaps are used there.

I intend to re-apply this change. If my fellow editors think that's the wrong thing to do, I'm confident they will express their views. TypoBoy (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
Added External Link to the NTSB "Sinking of Tall Ship Bounty" Webpage.

This Webpage has NTSB links to the Docket DCA13LM003 and the Report MAB-14-03.

The link the archive.org to the tallshipbounty.org webpage is not part of the External Links list should it be added?

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Possible Photo Gallery additions (or additional link)
I sailed on the Bounty in 2003 and took many photographs, which are posted here http://www.anesi.com/bounty.htm -- includes a very good photograph of Captain Walbridge, along with photos detailing standing rigging, interior etc. The page renders legibly on mobile devices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TwoGunChuck (talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

The Bounty 1787
I have a pulley from the 1787 ship THE Bounty that has been authenticated by the antique roadshow as from a British ship from that time period.

My grandfather, Charles Willett, sometime in the early 1900s was on Pitcairn Island where the ship The Bounty went down and he traded a pound of coffee for a pulley from the bounty. He was quite the historian and saved a lot of artefacts from his travels ...he was in the British army ... the Boer War and the First World War.

Who can I contact about selling this piece ?

Thank you Barbara Willett Lisac casil@sympatico.ca Bjl130 (talk) 02:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

The HMS part
I'm a little confused as to why it would matter for an American ship's name to be subject to UK rules. If the ship was a British ship, then I can understand why there would be rules against using the HMS prefix. However, this was an American ship thus British rules shouldn't apply. I know this site has a British bias. 2604:2D80:6305:600:859A:E857:5013:8B4A (talk) 03:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)