Talk:Bournemouth/Archive 1

Unitary Authority
Strongly suspect that whoever inserted the text re Unitary authority and Hampshire has made a mistake and the Bournemouth authority is in Dorset...where I live part of each year. See eg: http://www.boundarycommittee.org.uk/your-area/dorset.cfm

Does anyone arbitrate such cases of do I just make the change?

No, Bournemouth was in Hampshire until 1974, then in Dorset until 1997, then a Unitary Authority. Trouble is the "Ceremonial County" of a place can differ from its Political and/or administrative county. It can all get very complicated... 86.143.28.42Britmax 10:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC) 11:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC) Grockles? Someone is having a little fun...

Grockles is a term that has been used in and around Dorset for Tourists. I've never heard the term innit's though. --AlisterBulman 09:48, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A Grockle in Devon refers to someone that was not born in the area and you lose the Grockle title when you have lived in the area for more than 25 years.


 * Probably a corruption of the Cornish emmits meaning ants, or slang for tourists. Joe D (t) 11:10, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Or from their habit of saying things like, "Nice 'ere,innit?" or "'Ot 'ere, innit?"Britmax 15:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Eh?
BoMo? Never heard the term and I've lived in Bournemouth for over thirty years.
 * I've seen it in texts and on MSNM, but never heard it in speech. Leszek 23:46, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

If you've lived here that long you're probably not supposed to use it anyway. If it's any consolation neither am I. Which makes it strange that I was using this term for the town thirty years ago; I took it from the depot allocation of the (then fairly new) electric trains based at the old West Station carriage sheds. Don't know where anyone else got the idea though; probably a fairly obvious shortening.

Britmax

My experience is that 'BoMo' tends to be used more by people who have come to work in the town (particularly in the finance houses) or study here. It's kind of a meme for 'Nu-Bournemouth'. Whatever that is. 194.66.72.74 15:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Bournemouth University
Bournemouth University used to be called Bournemouth College of Technology. It was the first college in the UK to offer the HND in Tourism and it soon acquired a reputation as being the 'best' college (non-university) to study tourism. The Number 17:51, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Prior to gaining university status it was Bournemouth Polytechnic, and before that it was Dorset Institute of Higher Education. Although the main campus has been at Wallisdown for many years (and therefore in the Borough of Poole I believe, not in Bournemouth at all) there was a Weymouth site for a long time, which ran a Media Studies degree and an HND in Archaeology. Those courses were moved to Wallisdown, together with a few remaining Education undergrads, in 1985 or '86. Weymouth had originally been a teacher training college.


 * In the very beginning it was Bournemouth College of Technology with a base at Shelley Park (Boscombe) as well as the Lansdowne College. The Number 13:32, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * As well as all the university students, Bournemouth also hosts very large numbers of foreign students of English at the many independent language schools. They contribute to the town's cosmopolitan atmosphere all year round, as well as to unseemly crushes on certain buses in the summer months...

Er... sorry, I dunno how to make a new comment, but I suspect the heading "Climate and Tourism" with the simple sentence "Bournemouth has a nice climate" may be spam, and should be sorted —Preceding unsigned comment added by SHTR (talk • contribs) 15:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Tourists
Bournemouth beach also hit the headlines in 1975 when the Daily Mirror ran an article about deck-chair attendants, sex and tourists. According to the Mirror, the way someone sat in a deck-chair determined whether they were available for sex. Tourists at the time were called 'grockles' and 'innits' ('nice here innit') The Number 17:51, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

History
The article claimed that the Lower Pleasure Gardens were renamed "for fear of encouraging an indulgence in 'lower pleasures'." - this is merely a line from Bill Bryson's "Notes From a Small Island" and isn't actually true Teriyaki 12:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Train services to Waterloo
I believe there is a small inaccuracy in the train services to Waterloo, the fastest service AFAIK is the services that run fast to Southampton Central, call at Airport Prkway, Winchester and then fast into Waterloo. Those take around 1:42 normally which isn't 93 minutes... Tubechallenger 16:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

And Brockenhurst, as a rule? Britmax 11:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Those that stop at Brockenhurst take 1:50, the 1:42 is for peak services. Tubechallenger 16:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

CCTV
I believe Bournemouth was the first UK authority (outside London) to install CCTV in public areas. Can someone provide the exact date? I'm thinking it was late 1980s. --80.3.179.56 14:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

--1985. This has since been added to the article. (1985 seems amazingly early, but it's true. From what I remember, public opinion in the UK was overwhelmingly against the use of CCTV right up until c.1993-4) --Bonalaw 09:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Suspect Advert
I suspect the edit containing the summary comment "link to simple English article" submitted on the 16th of June at 1935 to be a commercial for a language school. Could one of our German speakers confirm / deny please? Britmax 07:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I am unsure what you mean...That edit was by me and was just adding Bournemouth to the interwiki links. It goes here which is the article in Simple English (though admittedly with not much content). Please explain further. Mahahahaneapneap 10:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

My thought is that if this is a commercial advertisment it may breach policy on such matters. Any opinions? Britmax 12:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand. How is it an advertisement? Mahahahaneapneap 14:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's the thing. I have the article for my home town on my watch list. Earlier today I tried to find out what the "Simple English" reference was and there was what appears to me to be a German advertisement for an English language school there. I could not access "Simple Bournemouth" through it: only through the link in your reply above. Now, the link is described as a language school and the "Simple Bournemouth" thing in the article has vanished. This is not, as far as I know, due to anything I have done. There is something strange going on as I cannot find the edit point where the article was changed although I will keep trying. Britmax 15:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I've just looked for the edit and it was made on 29th August 2005 by 84.173.85.96. You can see it here. I'm not sure how/when it was deleted though. It does look like an advert to me and should've been deleted sooner. Mahahahaneapneap 18:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Article Length/Advert
I have removed what appears to be an advertisement from this article. Interestingly when this line is removed the banner expressing concern at the length of the article also disappears; I infer that the article is right on the edge of "capacity" here. I would suggest replacing the reference to all schools in Bournemouth with a link to the local education authority to reduce the size of the article. I will sift the article for redundancy (i.e. duplicated information) to try to achieve the same end. Britmax 07:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Gay Bournemouth
Whoever keeps deleting this section, please advise why you are doing this without explanation... Psicorps 10:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Edit
Hey, ive just done a massive edit and clean up of the article. I found so many things repeated throught the article, with sections like the town that were all over the place. Ive been very careful to keep most of the original information and move it into new categories, starting with geography and then moving into history. Ive removed a lot of comments that were clearly NPOV but some of my edits might read the same. Hopefully my restyling of the article wont come as too much of a shock! LordHarris 00:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Hengisbury Head / Christchurch
I just removed the section re Hengistbury Head being in Christchurch. The western end of Poole Bay is in Poole, right enough, but the OS map confirms that the Christchurch / Bournemouth border runs down the middle of the River Stour to the sea at Mudeford. So, Hengistbury Head is in Bournemouth. Christchurch does have beaches (quieter than Bomo's and with great views of the Isle of Wight) but the're not in Poole Bay as they're the eastern side of the head. Britmax 20:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

InfoBox
Created the article Bournemouth (borough) and copied the old uk admin district infobox there. Changed the infobox for this article to the one for UK settlements as per Template:Infobox UK place/doc/Unitary--Steve 21:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Um... what was the point of thatwhen you can see on the map that Bournemouth is a borough in itelf (eg. like Birmingham or Southampton

History Section
As has been pointed out the History section is getting very long. I support creating a new article History of Bournemouth and keeping a summary here. --Steve Cottrell 21:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Started article for the History of Bournemouth --Steve Cottrell 15:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)