Talk:Bouygues/Archives/2013

Bouygues Télécom
This link clearly is not good... goes to the sponsor name... shouldn't it be on a page named Bouygues Télécom (bicycle team) or something like that ? (this is what is done in other languages, see interwikis)

ZeroJanvier 18:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC) (my mother tongue is french, excuse my poor english)
 * Sorted. Two articles, one for cycling team, one for company, with disambiguation page. (cycling team) disambiguation only needed if a company shares the name of the cycling team, which is essentially any with just a single title sponsor. I'm in the process of disambiguating all the links, but that won't take long. Mk3severo 17:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

stop redirect
Please stop redirecting Martin Bouygues here.Zigzig20s 04:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Article created.213.249.248.51 (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Can anyone offer guidance on how the company name is pronounced? Thanks Arjayay (talk) 12:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at adding the IPA pronunciation to the lead paragraph. Gr1st (talk) 13:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Contracts in Turkmenistan
A recent edit draws attention to contracts in Turkmenistant diff also see http://www.lemonde.fr/cgi-bin/ACHATS/acheter.cgi?offre=ARCHIVES&type_item=ART_ARCH_30J&objet_id=1143184&clef=ARC-TRK-NC_01 and http://www.cci.gov.tm/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=206:president-of-turkmenistan-reviews-construction-projects-of-bouygues&catid=38:news-2011 http://www.cci.gov.tm/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=278:president-of-turkmenistan-receives-top-manager-of-bouygues&catid=38:news-2011 http://www.bwint.org/default.asp?index=2483&Language=EN etc

Also http://www.eurasianet.org/node/62567 which alleges bribes, and states over exposure to risk. I don't think this is currently notable, and the eurasianet.org post is over egged - but in case of future events I'll leave the links here so that someone can say "told you so" at a future date.

Perhaps the level of activity in Turkmenistant is notable? Imgaril (talk) 12:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I added more info to the "projects" section but not about the "controversy" as I haven't found it to be fully clear of POV issues.213.249.248.51 (talk) 14:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Merge completed
Wikishagnik (talk) 20:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Neutrality and other issues - the first paragraph is referenced by http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,4565c2252c,4565c25f389,4b87865ec,0.html - which has 0 mentions of the company.
 * Second paragraph - ditto
 * Third paragraph - ok. But doesn't state explain controversy
 * Fourth paragraph - referned from http://www.eurasianet.org/node/62567 (firstly I note that this shows the first paragraph is a copyvio), also the four paragraph is copyvio.
 * There seems to be some issue here, but it is not well explained at all - in particular why it is a controversy, or reliable sources stating that.


 * The issues including copvios need fixing soon, and properly.
 * I could only find one other reference to this http://binjamin.over-blog.com/article-2235383.html a blog - it looks like a hatchet job
 * I tried archived google news - it's clear that the company has a lot of recent contracts in the company -what I can't find is the controversy.. If someone else want to check more thouroughly then please do so. I did find this http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav020310a.shtml but "guilt by association", (assuming there is any guilt here at all) is not acceptable. I'm not sure whether undertaking "inappropriate" construction contracts is actually the same as a controversy.Oranjblud (talk) 21:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Owner(s) : French Government ?
I don't think the French state owns shares of Bouygues, and even if it does (always possible with French groups) it's a small part, smaller than what the Bouygues family and employees own, so I don't understand why it's mentioned. Aesma (talk) 13:54, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've removed it - in 2006 the "Bouyges brothers" are stated at main shareholders http://www.economist.com/node/8348645
 * I can't find any evidence that that has changed.Prof.Haddock (talk) 17:28, 29 November 2013 (UTC)