Talk:Bow Back Rivers

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I have checked the article against these criteria, and am rating it B for UKW. Bob1960evens (talk) 15:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Suitably referenced, with inline citations
 * Reasonable coverage - no obvious omissions or inaccuracies
 * Defined structure, with adequate lead
 * Reasonably well written for grammer and flow
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 * Appropriately understandable
 * There are references missing, for example, the final layout of the Olympic development site and the history of Old Ford. Also, is there anything on the Etymology? Simply south...... having large explosions for 5 years 22:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not sure where to look for a ref for the early history of Old Ford. It was added by KbThompson in 2008, but his user page announces that he died in 2010, so I cannot ask him where he got the info. The paragraph is as he wrote it back then. For the Olympic development site, Ordnance Survey have not published a map yet, and that section was also written in 2008. I'll keep looking. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have found some stuff on early history and olympic access, and have altered the text to suit. By etymology, do you mean "why is it called Bow Back Rivers"? Bob1960evens (talk) 13:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Bow - the bridge over the Lea was "bow shaped" and "back" must mean "backwater", we asume. Gordo (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you got a source for this? Since the first Bow bridge was built around 1118 by Maud, wife of Henry I, (see Powell 1973) the derivation does not sound very likely. Bob1960evens (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I found Lysons (1795). It seems all bridges were bow shaped, since the word "arch" derives from "arcus", meaning "bow". Bob1960evens (talk) 21:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I spoke to an expert on the Lea (he know Tudor and Georgian times). He said that the term Bow Back Rivers was not used then. He said the first he knows of was the job creation schemes that worked on the Bow Back Rivers in the 1930s so may well be a piece of marketing of the time. The term Bow is discussed here Bow,_East_London. Gordo (talk) 07:55, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

They seem to have been called Stratford Back Rivers before that, though so far my earliest unequivocal source is 1905. . Bow Back River (the small bit to the west of City Mills Lock), was so named in 1895, but was part of Pudding Mill River in 1850 (OS maps). Bob1960evens (talk) 10:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have started a "Name" subsection. I cannot yet find a source that specificially links "Bow Back Rivers" to the 1930s scheme, but will keep looking. Bob1960evens (talk) 12:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


 * If this is any help, according to What's in a name? (2009) by Cyril M Harris, Bow is so called du to either an arched bridge over the River Lea in the 12th century or a bend in the road east of Bow Road station. Simply south...... facing oncoming traffic for over 5 years 16:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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