Talk:Bowen Island

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Politics section created to demonstrate long standing community polarity and shift due to demographics. Historical interest. Would really appreciate help finding references to voting patterns, I can't seem to find anything in the Stats-Can maze Wednesday vagabond (talk) 08:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The article mentions that the island is used by First Nations people for deer hunting. Does anyone have any recent examples of this? I have lived here for 11 years, and while I *used* to see deer hunters from time to time (none of them First Nations, as far as I could tell), that was long ago. The municipality currently restricts hunting to licenced bow hunters only, and as far as I know there have been no recent licences issued. Should we perhaps change "is used" to "was used in the past"? Local sentiment (apart from annoyed gardeners) is pretty much against hunting on Bowen, I suspect.

Hi...Chris Corrigan here. I personally know of Musqueam hunters who hunt in Apodaca Park (and who access the land by boat) and I know of other very recent uses of the land by Squamish hunters. this is important becasue First Nations people are allowed to hunt in Provincial Parks, and the current use is in line with contemporary Aboriginal rights and title.

James Glave here. I obtained a hunting license on the island for the 2007-2008 season, and know of two others who did as well. Unsure of licenses applied for in the current season. There has been a strong anti-hunting sentiment dating back to enactment of the current bylaw, but based on recent exchanges on the bowen forum, I would say that the locavore movement is in part helping to swing the pendulum back the other way. While it is difficult to obtain a permit given the restrictions, it is certainly possible, and non-aboriginals do.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesglave (talk • contribs) 05:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

There should be more about Bowen Island as it is now, and not all about it's history.Canadianshoper 04:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Then add it.Skookum1 (talk) 07:19, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

The Island today
I have added a section on churches. Other relevant sections that others might like to add include:
 * Arts and culture
 * Education
 * Commerce

David L Rattigan 20:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Bowen on Film
There was a recent compilation of Bowen on film, which I will post here for now. Once this is moved into the main body of the article it can be deleted from this page.

This listing is a draft made with the aid of Brian Biddlecombe, and Ross Carter. Other input cordially requested. November 2006

All the Winters That Have Been January 1997. Made for TV. Actors: Richard Chamberlain, Karen Austin. Made for TV. Scenes inside the Snug. Bowen called Raven Island.

American Gothic 1988, colour. Actors: Rod Steiger, Yvonne de Carlo, Fiona Hutchinson, Michael J. Pollard. Director: John Hough

Andre January 1994. Actors: Keith Carradine, Tina Majorino. Director: George Miller.

Another Stakeout 1993, 108 m, Technicolour. Actors: Richard Dreyfuss, Emilio Estevez, Rosie O’Donnell, Dennis Farina, Miguel Ferrer. Director: John Badham.

As Time Runs Out (Tomorrow at Ten) 1999. Actors: Stephen Collins, Karen Silas, Emmett Shoemaker. Thriller. Wealthy man races against time to save kidnapped son.

Bird on a Wire 1990, ? m, colour. Actors: Mel Gibson, David Carradine, Goldie Hawn. Director: John Badham.

Clan of the Cave Bear 1985, 98 m, Technicolour. Actors: Daryl Hannah, Pamela Read, Thomas Waites. Director: Michael Chapman.

Cousins 1989, 113 m, Technicolour. Actors: Ted Danson, Isabella Rossellini, Lloyd Bridges Director: Joel Schumacher.

Crusader Babbitt Goes Home 2005. Still in production.

Disturbing Behavior March 1998. Length? Colour? Actors: James Marsden, Katie Holmes. Director: David Nutter. Bowen becomes Cradle Bay where teens are brainwashed.

Double Jeopardy 1999. Length? Colour? Actors: Tommy Lee Jones, Ashley Judd. Director: Bruce Beresford.

Food of the Gods 1976, 88 m, Movielab. Actors: Ida Lupino, Ralph Meeker, Pamela Franklin, Marjoe Gortner. H.G. Wells story. ( Archival material available)

Forget Me Not April, 1996, released 1998. Actors: Michael Beardsley, Ryan Johnson, Anne Kemp.

Hideaway March, 1994. Actors: Jeff Goldblum, Chrisitine Lahti, Alfred Molina. Thriller.

Jacob Two-Two and the Hooded Fang Local production.

Jellybean Odyssey July 1993-1995. Pilot for CBC TV children’s prize-winning series. Actors: Illya Woloshyn, Ashley Rogers,Tony Sampson

Look Who’s Talking 1989, 96m, Technicolour. Actors: John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Olympia Dukakis, George Segal, Abe Vigoda, Bruce Willis.

Marlon and Luke are Awesome. 2006. Documentary focusing on the awesomeness of Marlon and Luke.

Paper Moon. 2004. 82 m. Canadian-made romantic drama by Fairchild Films. Actors: Misa Shimizu,Brendan Fletcher, Philip Granger.

People Across the Lake 1988. Made for TV. Actors: Valerie Harper, Gerald McRaney. Murder/horror plot.

Russia House 1990, 123m, Technicolour. Actors: Sean Connery, Michelle Pfeiffer, Roy Scheider, James Fox, Ken Russell, Klaus Maria Brandauer, Michael Kitchen. John LeCarre novel, Tom Stoppard, screenwriter. Fred Schepisi. director.

Scorn 2001. TV movie, shown March 18th, 2001. Based on Lisa Birnie’s book Such a Good Boy. Contains wonderful shot from Miller’s Landing along Scarborough Beach showing all the waterfront houses of Eagle Cliff. Actors: Eric Johnson, Brendan Fletcher, Michael Hogan, Bill Switzer.

The Fog 2005. Remake of horror film. Festival field becomes cemetery.

The Lady Forgets 1989. ? m. CBS Movie of the Week Actors: Donna Mills and Greg Evigan. Most scenes on the Bowen ferry and dock.

The Trap 1966, 106 m, Eastmancolour. Actors: Oliver Reed, Rita Tushingham, Barbara Chilcott. Filmed in Tunstall Bay where a whole village was constructed

Tomorrow at Ten May 1999. Made for TV. No other information to date.

Wicker Man 2006. Actors: Nicholas Cage, Ellen Burstyn. Remake of a 1973 Christopher Lee classic.

By Date:

1966 -The Trap 1976 - Food of the Gods 1985 - Clan of the Cave Bear 1988 - American Gothic 1988 – People Across the Lake 1989 - Cousins 1989 - Look Who’s Talking 1989 – The Lady Forgets 1990 - Bird on a Wire 1990 - Russia House 1993 - Another Stakeout 1993 - Jellybean Odyssey 1994 - Andre 1994 - Hideaway 1996 - Forget Me Not 1997 - All the Winters That Have Been 1998 - Disturbing Behavior 1999 - Double Jeopardy 1999 - Tomorrow at Ten (As Time Runs Out) nd People Across the Lake 2000 - Scorn 2004 - Paper Moon Affair 2005 - Crusader Babbitt Goes Home.( Still in production) 2005 - The Fog 2005 – Jacob Two-Two and the Hooded Fang 2006 – Marlon and Luke are Awesome 2006 – The Wicker Man —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salishsea (talk • contribs) 15:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Wednesday vagabond's edits
Edits under Politics are occuring with no signature or time stamp. Late July 10 or early July 9th included an edit that wiped out all prior signature/time stamps and the editor's ip number. --Wednesday vagabond (talk) 14:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I wrote a piece on the politics of Bowen Island which demonstrated the historical polarity of community with a current event. Everytime I posted someone would delete it. While I always left a time/signature stamp the editor who deleted my column never left a signature or time stamp but his/her ip address was posted once. Then this anonmous editor wiped out all my time/signature stamps and his/her ip address. I was blocked because it appeared there was an edit war happening (which I agree with). I also did not leave any reasons for edits here (my fault). The 3r's were also cited as a reason for blocking me and yes, I admit to trying to replace my post several times in one day when the column was continually deleted. A problem has risen out of the block and the anonymous editor's deletions - I had no way to reach consensus with someone who is anonymous with no trace. I was blocked from any discussions so could not appeal to the administrator (Ckatz) nor any other administrator. There was no appeal process open to me. I suggest that anyone administrating this page not block the channels to me appealing. Thank you. --Wednesday vagabond (talk) 16:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well first off, please don't sign and time stamp your edits to article pages. Those are for use in discussions such as this one, not to stamp everything you add to wikipedia.  Also, if you find yourself reverting and counter reverting more than 3 times, it is best to stop altogether and discuss the disagreement here or on the other user's talk page.  Now as for the material you kept putting into the article, I agree that a lot of it was not very suitable.  The first bit ("Island politics have long been divisive between those who want small, managed growth, and those who care for larger developments. Since it's inception as a municipality, Bowen Island has had many an on-going battle between the two factions.") sounds like an opinion that can't really be demonstrated, hence unsuitable for an article.  It is also unreferenced.  Then you start talking about artificial turf.  I could maybe see a brief mention of artificial turf, but you go on for 5 paragraphs about this seemingly unimportant issue.  Wikipedia strives to avoid putting undue weight on a subject, and I think this is obviously a case of that.  TastyCakes (talk) 16:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, the section reads like it has been cut and paste from a local newspaper or something. Is that the case?  TastyCakes (talk) 16:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There are several problems here. One, you were adding the material repeatedly, without discussion, even after it was removed by several other editors. This culminated in your multiple reverts a few days back. Generally speaking, if you find that your contributions are removed, it is time for discussion rather than reversion. Second, and perhaps more important, is that the contribution itself is problematic. It begins as a comment on the voting history of Bowen Island, but quickly devolves into an editorial-like commentary on one specific issue. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is not intended as a forum or public discussion site, but instead as n encyclopedic reference resource with a world-wide audience. --Ckatz chat spy  16:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I re-posted an article under Politics and the section was deleted once again. The editor doing this is anonymous so I cannot trace them to reach consensus. The anonymous editor also erases my time/signature stamp and does not leave one of his/her own. This appears to be an edit war. Previously I had not listed my reasons for re-posting under my discussion page. I did so earlier today and as always, left my time/signature stamp. I had also previously re-posted several times after each time the section was deleted, thus engaging in the edit war (not knowing all the rules and regs of Wiki). Ckatz, an administrator blocked me for this. Ckatz also disabled my ability to to persue other avenues of appeal besides consensus, thus leaving me unable to follow Wiki guidelines on the appeal process. Ckatz had blocked my ability to post on his/her discussion page or any other administrator's discussion page thus I could not appeal through a third party. I suggest that Ckatz allow me the right to reach consensus, appeal to Ckatz and appeal to a third party administrator and any other avenue of appeal.

The section I had created was 'Politics" which is a vital part of any community. The article written demonstrated the polarity of Bowen Island's politics by citing recent events that have divided the community.  It also let readers know of demographic changes that have changed the face of how Bowen Island votes Federally and Provincially which is a historical change for the populace.  --Wednesday vagabond (talk) 16:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Please put your comments at the bottom of this page so it doesn't get all out of order and confusing. It wasn't an anonymous editor it was me, and you'll find my reasons above.  TastyCakes (talk) 16:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate that you are new to the site, I do have to say that your claims above are incorrect and overstated. No-one "disabled" your ability to appeal; you were blocked for 3RR and edit warring, simple as that. You were still able to post on your page, and the block was only for 31 hours. You (as with any contributor) are free to seek consensus, but that does not mean you resume the cycle of reposting the same text without addressing concerns raised here. --Ckatz chat spy  16:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

old postcard pix from Commons
These need to be cropped from the largest-size version and rotated, but some might be useful for the article... File:Bowen Island Series 1 (HS85-10-37657).jpg.Skookum1 (talk) 09:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Article requires disambiguation?
I've reverted the undiscussed move because it was moved to the wrong title format. If this does require disambiguation, the proper landing place would be Bowen Island, British Columbia as this is primarily a community/municipality article, not a geographic feature article. Let's discuss to confirm if a dab is required and then we can request the current redirect to be deleted to make way for the move. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree that the correct title should be 'Bowen Island, British Columbia'. Right now there's an endless loop: 'Bowen Island' takes you to the disambiguation page; and 'Bowen Island (British Columbia)' also takes you to the disambiguation page; and clicking on 'Bowen Island (British Columbia)' on the disambiguation page also just takes you back to disambiguation. There seems to be no way to get 'Bowen Island (British Columbia)' to load, so that I could move it to 'Bowen Island, British Columbia'. Do you know how to get out of this loop?Boy.bowen (talk) 03:07, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Is this what you're after? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bowen_Island_(British_Columbia)&redirect=no Air.light (talk) 03:39, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

, it appears from this that you are attempting a cut-and-paste move. This can't be done. See the note I just dropped on your talk page about that. I am not convinced that an undeveloped island 1.1 km by 0.6 km off the coast of Australia, Bowen Island (Jervis Bay), is notable enough to rival this island municipality's notability and therefore challenge its current placement at this undisambiguated location. Instead, creation of Bowen Island (disambiguation) may be the more appropriate location for the dab page. If you want to move this article over the current redirect, you'll have to initiate a formal move request at Requested moves. Hwy43 (talk) 03:55, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I think a disambiguation page is a little much for this. There's the Bowen Island in BC page and the Bowen Island in Australia page. The other two examples of a Bowen Island in Ontario and in the Philippines are unlikely to have pages in the future due to notability issues. Since there's the two main articles, a hatnote seems like it could be sufficient to direct people to the other one if necessary. Air.light (talk) 03:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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