Talk:Bowl Championship Series controversies

BCS Playoff Solution
The BCS has two main problems; Fans of college football want a playoff where every Division I team has a shot at the National Championsip atthe begining of the year. BCS supporters want to keep the college football bowl series fair for conferences and teams that bring in much of the revenue that has made college football one of the most succefully profitable franchises. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.207.253.101 (talk) 21:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for stating the obvious. However, talk pages are for discussing improvements/questions on the article, not to discuss the topic itself. Frank Anchor Talk to me  (R-OH) 14:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

It's worth pointing out from this misplaced post that this is one problem (not two). Also, the poster maintains that the BCS has made college football one of the most [sic] successful sports. This is an example of secundum quid as the poster provides no evidence that the current system would be more profitable than hypothetical and/or proposed playoff systems.Obamafan70 (talk) 06:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Summary
Updated as of 1-10-09 The summary has been improved, and is now well-sourced. The tone is now more neutral and sourced with credible, independent, third party citations (see Quinnipiac University reference, etc.). BCSPro's discussion contained informal language and slang, and his revert contained no justification. Unsourced personal summaries are subject to removal as per basic Wikipedia guidelines. Aside from the obvious unencyclopedic language, BCSPro is a passion advocate of the current system, which is a minority opinion by 2.5 times. Caution about his objectivity should be exercised, again aside from the obvious blurby, informal, promotionalese language used in his summary.Obamafan70 (talk) 06:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

2002-2003
I do not see a compelling case that 2002-2003 is the lone exception to the controversial BCS selections. Group29 (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There was really nothing controversial about it. So the Orange Bowl selected Iowa and USC.  Big Deal.  I would also support removing 2005-06 from this list for similar reasons. NewYork483 (talk) 17:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have to agree wih NY above. There are many examples of when the Rose Bowl did not feature Big Ten-Pac 10 (2002, 05, 06) Those dont appear controversial Frank Anchor Talk to me  (R-OH) 17:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, however the 02 and 06 Rose Bowls were National Championship games so there couldnt have been controversy as to B10-P10 (although there was as to the two teams selected to play in it in 02), and the 05 selection was controversial. That being said, teams going to bowls that do not fit their conference tie-ins does not seem like controversy to me. NewYork483 (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If this page is about controversies then even the small ones should be noted, such as 02-03. i do agree with the removal 05-06 because the Notre Dame clause is not controversial and I do not remember any controversy about Oregon/ND when it happened a few years ago. Frank Anchor Talk to me  (R-OH) 00:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

2004-2005
Does the Reggie Bush case belong on here? The controversy is in the case itself. It's not really a BCS controversy relating to selection of teams. Bbigjohnson (talk) 23:31, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

2008-2009
This section needs to be reworked. Utah (#6) wasn't just selected over Boise State, they got an automatic at-large slot, for being ranked in the top 8 (they were #6, I believe). Under the rules, if the conference champion from a non-BCS conference and you're ranked in the top 8 (or top 12 and ranked higher than a BCS conference champion), it's an automatic slot. However, if there is more than one team, the automatic slot goes to the highest ranked team. So, while Boise State was technically eligible, because Utah was ranked higher, they got the slot. TCU wasn't eligible, because they didn't win the Mountain West. Dunstvangeet (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

It's top 12 OR top 16 and higher than a BCS Conference Champion. But Yeah, you're right. Bcspro (talk) 14:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

09/10
Why is there no mention of why TX and AL were chosen over any of the other 3? I think to leave out their opponents records is being disingenuous and is allowing for a non-neutral point of view to affect the credibility of the article.

Opponents records: Alabama: 89-68 Texas: 84-75 TCU: 75-74 Boise: 71-88 Cincy: 72-75

76.19.168.81 (talk) 21:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

TCU
fixed a statement about TCU's opponents' record in the 2010 season, and cited to schedule (with records linked through) Jones629 (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

2011/2012 Season
Can we add the fact, now, that despite the claim that "Every game counts", the SEC is heavily weighted (due almost entirely to the poll system) to be ranked higher than any other conference teams? The fact that Oklahoma State had a generally stronger schedule and an equal final record (despite a "worse" loss) should have made them ranked higher than Alabama. This isn't just a computer problem, this is a voter problem, too. It's also worth noting that OSU-phile T. Boone Pickens is going to raise a holy ruckus about this, making it a developing situation as well...

Stretching the BCS controversy streak to yet another year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.72.189.159 (talk) 02:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Suggested move
I feel as though the page would be better if BCS was actually spelled out in the title. Right now, the acronym is very ambiguous for anyone unfamiliar with college football. --Kevin W./Talk•CFB uniforms/Talk 20:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose WP:ACRONYMTITLE allows initials based on the "prominence of the abbreviation over the full name ... in popular media such as newspapers, magazines, and other publications. News reference in Google show it referring to the college football bowl system.—Bagumba (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There is also BCS National Championship Game for WP:Other stuff exists argument. Regardless of outcome, they should be handled consistently.—Bagumba (talk) 23:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, crap, I didn't think about that. --Kevin W./Talk•CFB uniforms/Talk 02:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Lobbying for votes
Is whining a legitimate Wikipedia source? This section is full of original research and opinions, as well as factual misinformation. Delete this section. 50.175.186.16 (talk) 04:30, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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