Talk:Box lacrosse/Archive 1

Merge with indoor lacrosse

 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Resolved.

I think this article confuses box lacrosse with indoor lacrosse. From what I thought, box lacrosse consists of 3 x 20 minute periods, similar to ice hockey, where indoor lacrosse has 4 x 15 minute quarters.

Also, I believe the photo and reference to NLL is more appropriate to indoor lacrosse. Box refers more to how it is played in Canada, on smooth concrete floors rather than green carpet.

Lukeoz 17:39, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * You're right. The picture is inappropriate. The article at least now says there are four quarters. I also don't understand the need for the reference to John Davis and don't know what the last sentence means. John FitzGerald 16:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

So have box rules now changed so that there are now four periods instead of three? When did that happen?? Lukeoz 17:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry. My mistake. I've been sick recently and I must have been confused by fatigue. Anyway, why don't we move the photo to the indoor lacrosse article, edit the article to report the correct number of periods, remove the reference to John Davis, and either remove or clarify the last sentence? Your point about bare concrete should probably be added, too. John FitzGerald


 * I added the photo. I'm sorry if caused some confusion.  Feel free to move it to the appropriate page.  I only follow the National Lacrosse League, so I was unaware of the difference.  I am usually a little more careful.  And as a side note, I am excited about the Calgary Roughnecks' home opener on Friday!  -- JamesTeterenko 16:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Box lacrosse is the same sport as indoor lacrosse. indoor lacrosse is a term that seems to be used much more often by american players. canadians almost always use the term "box lacrosse". i play in the ontario junior "a" circut as well as high school lacrosse in new york. i have always heard the term "box" to refer to both box lacrosse and indoor lacrosse when in canada. Americans field lacrosse players who have never played a legitimate box lacrosse game before seem to prefer the term "indoor" or "indoor lacrosse" because they often don't relize the considerable differences between box lacrosse and field lacrosse. an extra quarter doesnt make a different sport. and turf floors are also used through-out canada so that is invalid also. what should be recognized is the differences between field and box. Different equipment, considerably different stick regualtions, nets, and even regualtions for the ball that is used. different defensive tactics (such as being able to check somebody who does not have a ball), and offensive tactics that are rarely seen in field lacrosse except by box lacrosse players make box lacrosse in almost every way different that field lacrosse.

Thanks. I moved it and mad a couple of the other changes I suggested. John FitzGerald 17:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

This also clarifies the last sentence, which I now take it assumes box and indoor lacrosse are the seem. If so, it's inappropriate so I took it out. I also added a brief bit about differences between box and indoor. John FitzGerald 17:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

"Box lacrosse was invented in the 1930s as a way to promote business for ice hockey arenas, and quickly became the most popular version of the sport in Canada."

I don't completely agree with the above comment. If not mistaken the CLA converted from field lacrosse, to keep the game alive in Canada. As the game of field lacrosse collapsed, ice hockey began to soar in popularity in Canada.

The writer's comment may apply to the first pro league in Canada, but at that time, most arenas in Canada were small.........and at that, the first pro league only played in Canada's two major arenas..Maple Leaf Gardens and the Montreal Forum and possibly the Ottawa arena.

During the 30's outdoor hockey rinks may have been more numerous than indoor arenas. Most of Canada at that time was made up of a rural population and small towns and cities.

Box lacrosse was orginally created as a 4 period game, and it was played as such until into the 1950's. Periods were timed by a timekeeper and not by a clock. When 20 minute arena clocks arrived on the scene, box lacrosse converted to the 20 minute periods.

Box lacrosse is played in Canada on turf, on concrete and in one arena on a hardwood floor.

Box Lacrosse and Indoor Lacrosse are different names for the same sport.

Minor rule changes, do not constitute enough to say that box lacrosse and indoor lacrosse are different games.


 * I agree, the articles should be merged into just "box lacrosse". We should state that it's also known as indoor lacrosse, but we could say that box is played in a hockey arena -- sometimes on a concrete floor, and sometimes on astroturf over the concrete. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 03:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Boxcrosse
Does anyone really call it "boxcrosse"? I've never heard this term. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 17:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I removed it (two years late, I guess). The only reference I could find for this term was on wiki-mirrors.  Mitico (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)