Talk:Boy Scouts of America

Meeting of the minds
The last few days, you have been all over the BSA related articles:

Then there's this: Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard

I'm not sure what to ask here, but clearly you've decided to focus on scouting articles, and you seem to be taking a lot of unilateral actions on long-established articles. I'm going to bring in to see if they can help focus this discussion. --evrik (talk) 04:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , After some digging following the Big Sur thing, I've come across sufficient proof to show btphelps have a strong COI with Béla H. Bánáthy and White Stag and a probable WP:UPE as well as  I've started working on it once I've identified their insertion of Whitestag.org sources into various articles. They've been asked to answer on their page. We have a WP:OUTING policy, so I can not discuss the proof on Wikipedia Graywalls (talk) 06:27, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * btphelps has overlapping interests. This is not a COI. This is simply throwing mud and seeing what sticks. --evrik (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the other ones but for this one you deleted long standing material core material on the basis of which wiki formatting method was used. And then are claiming that a consensus is needed to retain long standing material. North8000 (talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree, which is why I have changed the article back. --evrik (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * per the comments above, look at Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard. --evrik (talk) 00:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I am going to be AFK until next week. Just an FYI, I just posted this: Administrators%27 noticeboard/Edit warring --evrik (talk) 03:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


 * For ease of finding it, now Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring -- Pemilligan (talk) 13:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Use of Age Range for Cub Scouts in Infobox
Since Cub Scouts membership is based on current grade of the Scout, rather than their age, would it make more sense in the Info Box to list a wider age range than just 5-10, or to instead list K-5th Grade? I was 4 when I started Kindergarten, so based on what's listed here, I couldn't join in Kindergarten which I know is not correct. Additionally, there are some 5th graders that turn 11 before bridging over to Scouts BSA, so perhaps a wider age range is appropriate? Tostie14 (talk) 17:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Info boxes always need to be over-abbreviated.  I think that giving a general idea based on ages is good even if imperfect. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 17:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Organization name change in the lead
Nice work! IMO eventually there should be a section on this for two reasons. Would allow putting more on this important news than can fit in the lead. Also the lead should be a summary of what is in the body of the article and I don't see where this is in the body of the article. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 14:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. This information needs to be described in detail in its own section in the article and summarised in the lead. HiLo48 (talk) 23:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Clarity on name change
Based on recent edits which I had to revert, it would be good to summarize.


 * The name of the overall organization will officially change from "Boy Scouts of America" to "Scouting America" in 2025. But they are informally starting to use the new name now.
 * The name of the flagship program within the organization (roughly speaking the main one serving 11-15 year olds, technically approx 10-18)  changed from "Boy Scouts" to "Scouts BSA" in 2019 and there is no additional change to this announced and they specifically said that the announced change does not affect this.

IMO we should not move/rename the article until new name change is official in 2025.

Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)