Talk:Brütal Legend/Archive 1

Nice Start
Looks like we're off to a good start on a page for a game that was literally just announced. ArmyOfPie 04:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed. A lot of info has been given out for game that's only been just announced. --Asclepius Quid fit? 04:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess that's thanks to Game Informer having it as their cover story.ArmyOfPie 17:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It's also thanks to Game Informer giving out a lot of details about the beginning of the game. --Asclepius Quid fit? 06:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Red Record?
Anyone want to add the information about the red record Kotaku got? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.6.146 (talk) 21:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the Riggs Records thing? I think that Double Fine gave those out to members of the press. IGN got one of those.ArmyOfPie 02:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Character Name?
This is pure speculation on my part, but when I read the main character's name, I immediately laughed. Eddie is the mummified mascot of Iron Maiden, and Riggs was the early 1980s band of guitarist Jerry Riggs (contributing two tracks to the Heavy Metal movie soundtrack). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.53.75 (talk) 03:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I assumed the name was a combination of Iron Maiden's Eddie and the artist that created him, Derek Riggs. (Rejecticon 00:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC))

Or Riggs (rig as in vehicle, or as in the act of setting up) as it relates to roadies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.187.210 (talk) 04:40, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

HD Trailer?
The FTP subfolder is gone already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.15.228.242 (talk) 23:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks like they got rid of all the Brutal Legend media for some reason, which has left broken links on the official site. I can only assume this is some kind of technical problem that'll be fixed. Ryan Williams —Preceding comment was added at 19:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, it looks like they have intentionally removed it; the 'Download' link from the trailer page has now been removed, leaving just the low-definition Flash video. I have the video on my hard drive and will happily upload it, but I can't realistically put this on my own hosting due to the potentially insane bandwidth costs (almost certainly why Sierra themselves withdrew it).

If anyone has any suggestions for a very high-capacity video site I could upload it to then I'll do so. My initial thought was GameTrailers but they don't seem to allow users to upload HD videos. Ryan Williams —Preceding comment was added at 23:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Ryan: You could just upload it to a site like megaupload.com or rapidshare.com. Also, to the user above Ryan: I doubt that this (80 meg or so, I believe) file was pulled for bandwidth reasons, seeing as how Sierra also hosts game demos weighing in at hundreds of megabytes, and files like the 1.7 gig "FEAR Combat" multiplayer client (which has been downloaded tens or hundreds of thousands of times) on their servers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.162.131 (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

All right, I racked my brain and after going through all the video upload sites I could remember I eventually noticed that GameVideos not only allows you to upload HD videos as long as they come to less than 100mb (the original was 220mb but some brief wmv re-encoding sorted that), but also streams them and gives you a high-quality Flash version (ie: better than YouTube quality). I've added the link to the stream to the article. Ryan Williams

PC version
I've just undone a revision that added 'PC' to the list of platforms.

I've not seen anything implying a PC version will exist, and indeed everything I have seen seems to specifically indicate that it won't. Being PS3/360-only has become fairly common knowledge (whether it's true or not), so I think any mention of a PC version absolutely needs a cited source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan Williams (talk • contribs) 19:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, all Schafer's previous games have appeared on PC, in fact most of them exclusively on PC. But still, I agree that a source is in order. 85.166.224.219 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Schafer: "We never said there WOULDN'T be a PC version." It's on the DF FAQ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.154.87 (talk) 17:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Video for this game was on the PCGamer UK DVD this month (March 09 issue). 81.136.198.171 (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Redundancies
Ronnie James Dio = Dio, I have removed the redundant listing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.176.76.2 (talk) 13:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Monsters
I noticed there is nothing that talks about the Emo and Goth enemies, or about the wierd teeth guy from the trailer, OR the monster Eddie jumps off of to kill something, OR the something he killed, OR the wierd worm thing. Is there nothing on these, or is someone just depriving this site? Longshotz 14:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The Emo and Goth enemies are briefly mentioned under plot. As for the other monsters, I haven't seen any info about them. --Asclepius Quid fit? 20:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't seen any art for these "emo and goth enemies", but I'm guessing that they are actually supposed to be "black metal" affiliates, who dress in black, generally behave in a grim manner, and wear "corpsepaint" (which is supposed to make them look dead).

The Runaways are carying flamethrowers. There are a pair of bayonets on the barrel, but they are being held like flame thowers, and fire is being spit out of them. 72.234.46.115 (talk) 04:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

"The Drowning Doom" faction is IMO either death metal or goth themed (or both). They're inaccurately described as "mythologically themed" in the article (the source of this seems to be a kind of dumb early review from IGN which really should not be considered a credible source about anything ever. Kryptography (talk) 23:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Release Date
Where and when was the release date confirmed? I've seen December, Late Summer and everything in between. If it's on the website, forgive me. My computer is slow and keeps locking up on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.216.196 (talk) 02:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Game Informer Art
On the cover of the Game Informer magazine covering this game, there is a man with a bandanna covering his eyes. Is this a possible reference to the band Blind Guardian? 98.215.216.196 (talk) 02:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Gamespot News and Speculation
Please help keep this page speculation free. I know that the Activision/Vivendi news raise many questions, and I'm sure many are upset about this. However, there are no news of cancellation of any sort, ditto for delays and whatnot. Please make sure that the facts are straight: Activision will not be publishing the game. Whether or not Blizzard or anyone else will be answered in due time. MarioColbert (talk) 18:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Not cancelled yet
Theres no specific confirmation that Brutal Legend is cancelled. Look at Ghostbusters that wasnt listed as still being published but it is according to Sierra PR. So until some more clarity comes out of this we shouldn't jump to conclusions about the cancellations. Soccrmastr (talk) 19:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, its not cancelled, it was picked up by EA, so it will be developed. UltimateSin01 (talk) 01:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Release Date
As has been discussed in many other places, we don't know if this game is even coming out. Along with WET and a handfull of other games, there is no concrete release date or information about their status other than some tepid comment from (I think) a Sierra rep about how these games aren't completely dead. My point being, having a specific release date in the article (even with a verifiable tag) just makes this issue more confused. For example, if I go to Amazon.com right now, it tells me that Brutal Legend (and WET) is coming out March 31, 2009...despite the fact that just two weeks ago Amazon had a December 2008 release. Yes, Amazon isn't a very good source but it underlines the issue that no one has official date or confirmation that these games are coming out at all, so we shouldn't post information without sources (preferable the publisher, whoever that turns out to be). 144.92.84.206 (talk) 18:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Official press release
Official Double Fine press release. ANd they explicitly say "Fall 2009". JAF1970 (talk) 20:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Page name and umlats
While I will agree the correct name of this game is "Brütal Legend", the umlat here is being used "decoratively" - there's no english word "brütal". WP:NC suggests to avoid using this since the umlat is decorative. --M ASEM 01:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a source as to whether it is pronounced differently because of the umlaut? "Pokémon" isn't a English word either, so I don't think that argument is entirely relevant here. I would also like to point out Motörhead, which you could also argue uses a umlaut for mainly decorative purposes (I don't see any mention of this on WP:NC).  TJ   Spyke   02:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I moved the article for the decorative reasons Masem has repeated above. (We even have an article on it Heavy_metal_umlaut). Its purely used a decorative feature so the article name should be in plain English and just because other articles use it incorrectly doesn't make this use correct. - X201 (talk) 09:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no rule against using the current (correct) title. You may not like it, but it doesn't violate any guideline or policy that I can see.  TJ   Spyke   20:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Moreover, answering the question above: For a German, pronunciation is very different between u and ü (or o and ö, for that matter). "Brütal Legend" simply looks/sounds wrong to a native German, like me. And over here, no one pronounces Motörhead like Motorhead. That Umlaut is a common source of confusion. 91.97.71.81 (talk)

Soundtrack RUMORS
I'm not putting it up under it's gotten more confirmation, but be aware that this is now in the open so people may try to add it before we have better confirmation. --M ASEM (t) 22:46, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-3271-EA-Denmark-Reveals-Brutal-Legend-s-Complete-Soundtrack.html UltimateSin01 (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Same base source (Kotaku through the ea.dk site which has now removed the information). So not yet good enough to include. --M ASEM (t) 19:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Game Daily has independently confirmed the soundtrack. I've added it, quickly formatting things through a spreadsheet so I assume band names are correct and linked no song title. --M ASEM (t) 20:27, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Kabbage Boy, as far as I can tell, doesn't actually exist. That is, there is no such band. Anyone know better? 75.36.148.52 (talk) 21:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC) Carl
 * It's reliably sourced. It may be an in-house band.  We'll have to wait to see, but there's no evidence not to remove it. --M ASEM  (t) 22:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed on a few gaming blogs that Kabbage Boy may be the band that Black's character is a roadie for. In which case, it is an in-house band, so you are unlikely to find copeis of it on the internet.  Unfortunately, the blogs that I have previously noted this appear to be taken down, so I cannot put it on the article itself.  But it would make sense.  We shall have to wait and see if this is accurate. Floydiac (talk) 20:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's been confirmed through the release of the game's intro that "Kabbage Boy" is the band Eddie roadies for at the start of the game. I've noted as such in the article (and delinked the band) --M ASEM  (t) 17:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I've unlocked all the songs in the game and noticed that "More Than Meets The Eye" by Testament isn't in it. Does someone want to edit it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.172.182 (talk) 11:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Doom Metal
Is it really necessary to mention doom metal? the only band on the list that is "doom" is candlemass, and they're hardly doom by todays standards.

Demo released on PSN for the Playstation 3 has problems
It may have just been my system, but the demo doesn't work correctly. The image is squished into the top two-thirds of the screen, jitters and is in black & white. If I go to the NTSC settings, it resolves everything but the lack of colour. Before mentioning anything in the article, I thought it would be wise to check if anyone else is having this issue. HDC7777 (talk) 18:42, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Ironheade, Drowning Doom, and Tainted Coil
I don't think it's too big to worry about, but I think maybe someone should make a page of each of the factions in the game. You know, just to give more info. Or a page with all three and possibly Lionwhyte's Army as well.

Just information about their solos, units, overall disposition, etc.

I played the Drowning Doom last night in the multiplayer a few times, and I think it'd be helpful to talk about the units and solos for each faction, considering I got floored on easy pretty quickly. xD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zappahcracker (talk • contribs) 23:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * We're not a game guide. This type of information is not appropriate to include in an encyclopedia. You're free, however, to make contributions at the Brutal Legend Wikia  or other game strategy sites. --M ASEM  (t) 23:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Drum Solo
One of the songs in my copy of the game, at least, is Drum Solo by Harry Cantwell from Slough Feg. (That's how it's billed too, drummer, and band.) So, why isn't it listed? 70.54.69.233 (talk) 19:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

As no one mentioned anything, I added it and also removed "More Than Meets the Eye," since it is labeled is "For the Glory of" in the game. (More than Meets the Eye is the Rock Band name.) There is no "More Than Meets the Eye" in the game. 67.71.5.254 (talk) 01:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

"For the Glory of..." is a 1:13 long intro to Testament's album (just like Scooter use intros in his every album) and "More Than Meets The Eye" is a second song of album. So, tecnically there is 2 song, not one. --Suhov (talk) 15:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Gameplay image
Any chance of updating the in-game screenshot to a post-release one? The current shot is from February, so is out of date and possibly not representative of the end game. Something from the final version, with elements such as HUD would probably be better. -- Sabre (talk) 20:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Brutal Legand Redirect
I propose that we redirect "Brutal Legand" to this page. I don't know why this wasn't already done, but it seems like common sense to me. Xylogirl07 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC).
 * Done. --M ASEM (t) 21:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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