Talk:Brad Stevens

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The article incorrectly states that Stevens just surpassed Bob Knight for the youngest coach to lead a team to a Final Four. This is incorrect - Knight was 32 when he led Indiana to the Final Four in 1973, while Stevens is currently 33. I think the editor misread his source, which states that Knight was 35 when he won his first championship, not his first Final Four.

140.247.241.183 (talk) 00:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * While I'm not sure if Knight was the youngest to do so when he took his 1973 team to the Final Four, this user is correct that Knight was younger than Stevens when he did it. That line has been removed from the article. Ncjon (talk) 00:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * ❌ A reference to a reliable source is needed. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  00:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

The sentence: "The 2009–10 team finished undefeated in conference play, becoming the first Horizon League team to do so." is factually innaccurate. As the Horizon League's own website states, Butler was the first Horizon League team since Green Bay in 95-96, and the third team ever, to finish undefeated. This can be verified here as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_League_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament 65.248.100.120 (talk) 03:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They were the first to go undefeated through both the regular season and conference tournament, as explained in the body of this article. The previous two teams to go undefeated through the regular season both lost during the conference tournament, which is part of league play. --ThaddeusB (talk) 06:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Myersonrich, 3 April 2010
Under his early life his father is spelled incorrectly. It is spelled "farther".

Myersonrich (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Myersonrich (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅, good catch  GB fan  talk 23:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Gruntledky, 4 April 2010
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"The Monk's court" should be "the Monks' court" or "Monk's court" (referring only to Stevens' friend).

"The hard work payed off" should be "The hard work paid off".

"named to the all-conference conference team three time" should be "named to the all-conference team three times" [two changes]

"academic all conference awards" should be "academic all-conference awards"

"a well paying job" should be "a well-paying job"

"working as a volunteer coaching assistant job" should be "working as a volunteer coaching assistant"

"had a meeting athletic director" should be "had a meeting with athletic director"

"Midway through Stevens first season" should be "Midway through Stevens' first season"

"composure of seasoned veteran" should be "composure of a seasoned veteran"

"as an at large selection" should be "as an at-large selection"

"33-26 half time lead and held the led" should be "33-26 half-time lead and held the lead"

"Joe Sexson lead the 1978 team" should be "Joe Sexson led the 1978 team"

"Steven's earned" should be "Stevens earned"

"Steven's Bulldogs beat" should be "Stevens' Bulldogs beat"

"Butler responded by Syracuse scoreless" should be "Butler responded by leaving Syracuse scoreless"

"out scoring Kansas State" should be "out-scoring Kansas State"

"before the Wildcats hit a meaning shot" should be "before the Wildcats hit a meaningless shot"

"a strategy of always remain calm" should be "a strategy of always remaining calm"

"to legendary coach John Wooden writing" should be "to legendary coach John Wooden, writing"

"He is also for projected a profession, "corporate" look from the sidelines" should be "He is also for known for projecting a professional, "corporate" look from the sidelines"

Gruntledky (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It wasn't pretty, but it's ✅. Avic enna sis @ 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. I've written a large portion of the article over the last few days and hadn't had a chance to copy edit it throughly yet.  Thanks for correctly my many errors. --ThaddeusB (talk) 06:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. per unitatem vis. :) Avic enna sis @ 19:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Much of the text should be moved elsewhere
There is a tremendous amount of detail here on Butler's recent seasons&mdash;as opposed to Brad Stevens himself&mdash;that should be moved to Butler Bulldogs men's basketball or to articles on the team's individual seasons (such as the one for 2009-2010). As a biography article this should, of course, mention these events, but only in very abbreviated form, with those who want more details going to the relevant articles. YLee (talk) 00:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It details these games in great detail, but they are the most important of his career. None the less, your suggestion is valid and I'll see what I can do. --ThaddeusB (talk) 00:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ I cut about 2.5k of text after copying the game descriptions to 2009–10 Butler Bulldogs men's basketball team.  The remaining text is mostly about Stevens' actions during the game. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think there is too much detail here. You should not have seperate sections on the tournament and final four play, even though these are important. ~  EDDY  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 02:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Quite a Player
Especially to make the varsity team at the age of 8!
 * "For his eighth birthday, Stevens received a new basketball. He would get up early to practice shooting at a local gym before school.[7] The hard work paid off as Stevens made the varsity team that same year.[7]"

Following "[7]" to the source article at the New York Times, the original line is:
 * "As a freshman at Zionsville High School, he got up early so he could work on his shot at a local gym."

Just to note, this was pointed out at Grantland.com here: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9018653/shaka-smart-brad-stevens-butler-vcu#footnote4 --Cogniac (talk) 04:22, 6 March 2013 (UTC) --Cogniac (talk) 19:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And yet you didn't fix it, just made a snarky comment about it.Ncjon (talk) 11:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that's because this is Wikipedia. And as the rest of the Internet knows, Wikipedia is ruled by territorial autists ("editors"), such as yourself. As such, there's often no real point in fixing things, because of the incredibly high probability of getting into an edit/revert war, or having your edits reverted and then re-applied under someone else's name so they can "take credit" (who really cares?), or one of a multitude of other indignities not worth spending time on. So usually, the best course of action is to point out the issue, walk away, and hope for the best. Apparently, that's no longer a valid strategy, either, as you will just get called out for making "snarky" comments by, ironically, a snarky comment.
 * Or you could have just fixed it. Can't imagine an edit war being started over an obvious oversight. Either way, it's done now.Ncjon (talk) 01:42, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * FYI, this was actually from simple vandalism. Someone removed a large chunk of text between "For his eighth birthday, Stevens received a new basketball hoop." and "The hard work paid off". --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

WTF does this even mean?
"…became the fourth-winningest first-year coach…"

Perhaps this needs rewording? --Pete (talk) 17:24, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

On consulting the source, I have changed the wording to "…ranking fourth in number of wins for first-year coaches…". --Pete (talk) 19:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Winningest in sports articles under discussion
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Executive career history
He has career history as coach why not as executive? Black roses124 (talk) 17:54, 15 June 2021 (UTC)