Talk:Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day!/Archive 1

Gameplay?
Surely there has to be someone out there who has played the game and can write up a gameplay section for this article...there's, like, nothing on the Internet, and this sold nearly half a million copies on its first day? The top Google result is this Wikipedia article, and most of the hits are all, "Brain Training 2 a huge hit! Off the charts!" kind of hits. Hbdragon88
 * It seems it's covered in the Japanese article about the first game, but I don't feel confident to translate it, or even just derive usaful information from it. Anyone else? --Jiifurusu 22:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Can someone please do a rundown of the different games like in the article for Brain Training 1? Phyte 16:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was the one who did that rundown, but alas, I do not own the game yet. I'm getting it at launch, however. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a list so far :( Phyte 22:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Would it be appropriate to list a short detail on how all the different features are unlocked? For instance, "Piano Player (hard mode) is accessed by scoring 100% on regular mode." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.194.51 (talk) 19:35, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Outside Japan
Is there any plans to release this game outside Japan? If not, why is there an "Alternate Names" Section? JQF 00:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, there shouldn't be a section, but you obviously also meant "why are there alternate names?". Well, while they aren't official, people commonly refer to it as More Brain Age and Brain Training 2. Also, EGM said that we may see an English release soon. - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Obviously confirmed for Euro release now, but what about the US? Is that an official name or did someone come up with it? I've looked at the history page and it's a horrible mess of chopping and changing the article name... 58.108.238.101 11:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Really short title
"Touhoku Daigaku Mirai Kagaku Gijutsu Kyoudou Kenkyuu Center Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Motto Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training" is a very short title. Isn't it? Razorsharpnose 11:30, 28 April 2007 (EET)

I bet that was sarcastic...and you're right. Maybe we should move the page to Brain Age 2 or something. Bet you 100$(not really!) that you can't pronounce the name (if you know Japanese, never mind) Jay B. 23:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Japanese releasedate
Why does it say that it released in 2006, it was released December 29, 2005, it's on Nintendo's official Japanese website.--Erik

Release Date?
I don't think the American/Canadian release date is August 20th; I was at all the stores I could go to yesterday and they all said it was going to be released today, the 21st. Therefore, I'm changing the date, until someone has a good reason why I shouldn't. Sincerely, Thrashmeister {U|T|C} 12:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I know that the red/black DS Lite bundle was released on the 21st, but that still doesn't explain why all the stores told me that Brain Age 2 would be in on the 21st instead of the 20th. Sincerely, Thrashmeister {U|T|C} 02:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * How about the fact that Nintendo announced it at their E3 press conference? FrogTape 01:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 05:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Virus Buster
Should virus buster be added? Also, how about listing the training segments in order and tell how many stamps are needed. 24.2.58.216 18:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC) (Teak the Kiwi)

Names
The names in the article are different from the ones on my (European) DS. Are they translations of the Japanese names (in which case the actual names should be put in instead) or the names from the US version of the game (in which case the other names should be included in brackets or something)? 193.95.165.190 13:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * They are the US versions. I'm going to put them as secondary names, but if you could check the other tests and add those, that would be great. --M ASEM  13:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Can/should someone add the number of stamps required to unlock each one? 193.95.165.190 11:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hard difficulty
I've noticed in the descriptions for the training exercises, it only describes the exercise in the normal difficulty. However, you may unlock a harder difficulty if you fulfill certain conditions (such as getting a perfect 100 in Piano Player/Masterpiece Recital), which has a slightly different rules set from the original. Continuing with the case of Piano Player/Masterpiece Recital, the normal difficulty pauses on each note and displays the letters of the notes, while the hard difficulty does not do either of the two. Unfortunately, I have not yet unlocked all of the hard difficulties, so I cannot fill in what differences exist between them, and I can't find another reliable source to back up my claims (granted, I only searched for about 10 seconds...). Therefore, would it be a good idea to include such information in the article? --Ryan Schmidt (talk) 20:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Removal of list of games
I have reverted RobJ1981's unilateral removal of the list of games. It seems appropriate and not excessive in the context of other articles. 193.95.165.190 14:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In defense of RobJ1981, I'd agree with his edit comment of "a prose would be much better". The way the descriptions are now, it sounds like strategies to complete these various games, and Wikipedia is not a strategy guide. Some sort of prose mentioning the basic gist of the games (not individually, but in general, maybe) would fit better under Wikipedia's standards. As for other articles, quite a few (not sure of exact count) could use a bit of cleanup to remove the non-encylopediaec stuff in them. Of course, in defense of 193.95.165.190, I do disagree with a unilateral removal of it without replacing it with something to make up for the good content that was removed. --Ryan Schmidt (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking at Brain Age, it's a shame that someone turned my prose into a list. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed move.
I propose that because the game was released first in PAL regions, the title should be at More Brain Training from Dr. Kawashima: How Old Is Your Brain?. Some have argued that there should be consistency, however, there's no precedence to title an article based on what the subject's predecessor is titled. It'd be like changing Dragon Warriors I-III and VII to Dragon Quests I-III and VII because of what every other game is titled, or vice versa. It's been established that the Brain Age series has been tremendously popular in the PAL regions compared to North America (to the point where Iwata criticized NoA for doing such a poor job of selling it, comparing their performance to NoE and NoAu's), and because of this, the title was released in those regions first. Neither Brain Age are tremendous sellers in North America at the moment, but looking at the various PAL regions...


 * 11 14 DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
 * 30 35 MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA DS NINTENDO NINTENDO

As we can see, more than two years after release, the original Brain Age is selling spectacularly, and the new one, while doing less, is still doing impressive, a stark contrast to US sales. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Support for pretty much all the same reasons I support moving the original Brain Age article. See this discussion. Dreaded Walrus t c 19:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose Current policies and guidelines (WP:NAME, WP:COMMONNAME, WP:ENGVAR) suggest that this move should not occur, and the principle motive stated for this move is regionalism, based on little more than raw sales figures. Further explanation can be found at the proposal for the first game. Talk:Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! Ham Pastrami (talk) 03:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The move to this was based only on the previous game being named Brain Age, so at what point do you oppose the current title for having horrible reasoning to even be there?
 * And like I said, if Brain Age were so much more well-known as the title, Iwata wouldn't flat out criticize the marketing team for the poor job they did of selling it. Which they did. Doing worse than the two lower major gaming regions IS noticeably bad. It can be established that BOTH games have had more influence in Europe than they did in North America and that both Brain Ages are decidedly irrelevant. But of course, you'll just say "oh, it's just sales, that's not a good reason". It's RELEVANCE. If Brain Age were even somewhat relevant in NA, you'd see it still doing similar numbers to what its brethren did and are doing in other regions. I think it's safe to say that the one and only argument Ham has presented that has even the slightest bit of worth is "stability". However, are you claiming that one name becoming less relevant to the readers does not require a move discussion? I highly dispute that - one part of the name is it should be what people would most commonly associate with the game. And on top of that, Brain Training is as common in the game description as Brain Age. And Hell, multiple American sources have actually CALLED it Brain Training. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And might I add that I'm amazed that there are actually supporters for this move? I guess as of late, the whole North American Allegiance has been weakening while the PAL Alliance has been strengthening. Seriously, I've never seen an attempt to move to a PAL title that a certain group didn't pounce on. - A Link to the Past (talk) 16:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)