Talk:Brampton (disambiguation)

International recognition
Please can User:172.188.142.236 explain why he believes England is more encyclopedic that United Kingdom, further broken down into top level NUTS 1 subdivisions (the regions of England)? Yorkshire Phoenix (talk) 11:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could explain why you are on a crusade to abolish the use of the world "England" in the encyclopedia? Morwen - Talk 11:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * This is an international encyclopedia and the United Kingdom is the name of the state in an international context. I have no problem with the use of "England" in British articles, but this is an international disambiguation page, besides: I have used the word "England" where it appears in the NUTS 1 subdivisions.  Yorkshire Phoenix (talk) 11:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Rename pages

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was move. Mind matrix  15:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Rename: Brampton → Brampton (disambiguation)
 * Rename: Brampton, Ontario → Brampton

I've reviewed the entries in this disambiguation page, and it appears that Brampton, Ontario satisfies the conditions of WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. An internet search for "brampton" returns about 9.3 million hits, whereas excluding links which contain the terms "Ontario" and "Canada" returns 2.5 million hits, some of which are nonetheless related to the Canadian city. (Excluding links to places which have Brampton as only part of their name, such as Brampton Island, results in 2.35 million hits.) None of the other places named Brampton warrant the use of the undisambiguated title (they are all small villages or hamlets, the largest having a population of about 5000), so the only question is whether their historical significance should prevent the Canadian city from using the undisambiguated name. I don't see any evidence suggesting that these other seven locations have such notable history that most readers would tend to associate the term with any of those villages or hamlets.


 * Support as nominator. Mind  matrix  15:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. The sheer number of UK villages named Brampton on the dab page further suggests to me even if the Canadian one didn't exist at all, the other Bramptons still wouldn't be able to claim primary usage. That said, though, the move will require a review of the inbound links in the process — while many of them are meant to link to Bill Davis' hometown, a few definitely aren't. Bearcat (talk) 18:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. As per nomination, and Bearcat's reasoning in respect of the U.K. villages.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom. --Kmsiever (talk) 13:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Comment on the above section
I must admit I was slightly surprised to read the above, since when I've said "Brampton" I've always meant Brampton, Carlisle, Cumbria and only very rarely have I had to "disambiguate" it for my listener(s), and when I have it's been with Brampton, Cambridgeshire. Actually, in the UK I suspect that the Canadian Brampton is barely known, though I do certainly agree that it's by far the most important place bearing that name and so without doubt deserves the undisambiguated article name. Just an observation, really, rather than a request or suggestion. Loganberry (Talk) 17:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC)