Talk:Brawl in Cell Block 99/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * File:ZahlerVeniceFilmFestival2017.jpg gives a source link that forbids commercial use, which is incompatible with the claimed licence. I think the image has to be deleted.
 * ✅ Replaced. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 18:08, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * birthmoviesdeath.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * filmaffinity.com -- seems to be user-generated content
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * heyuguys.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:16, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * brieftake.com
 * ✅ Replaced. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2paragraphs.com
 * ✅ Replaced. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * dailydead.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:27, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * dreadcentral.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:28, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * horrornews.net -- looks like a two person site, per this page
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:29, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * schnittberichte.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:30, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * looper.com -- listed as unreliable here
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * joblo.com
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * prnewswire.com and metro.news are listed at WP:RS/PS as unreliable sites.
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * blu-ray.com is listed here as an unreliable source.
 * ✅ Removed. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll pause there so we can address these before going ahead with the rest of the review. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:02, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Mike Christie: Removed and replaced listed sources. - 祝好，Sinoam(聊天) 20:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sinoam, just so you're aware, when I say "what makes X a reliable source?" I don't necessarily mean it has to be removed -- I'm just asking for evidence of reliability that you may know of that I don't. Anyway, the new image is OK; all sources questioned above have been removed, so all good so far.  I'll read through the prose next.  Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 20:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

There are lots of prose issues. A copyedit is needed; I'm going to list some examples here but this is not exhaustive. I'm going to fail the article on prose; it's a long way from meeting the GA prose requirement. Almost every sentence needs some work; the above are just examples. I recommend a GOCE copyedit before renominating. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:06, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The development subsection is written out of chronological order which doesn't help understanding. As it stands we start in 2011, then mention 2015, then go back to concept, and development, eventually passing 2015 again though it's unclear when.
 * "All scenes of graphic violence is ingrained into the script of Brawl in Cell Block 99 and Zahler's previous film Bone Tomahawk, with Zahler being uncomfortable and wondering if he has gone too far when writing it." The tense and syntax are weird enough that I don't know what this is trying to say.
 * "Regarding the title of the film, Zahler remarked how he wanted to use a title with multiple meanings instead of titles with one word or two words with the word "the", exemplifying how he was underwhelmed by the title of the 2016 film Moonlight and how it felt meaningless compared to the play it was based on, In Moonlight Black Boys Look Blue." Again strangely structured. Why not just say "Zahler wanted to use a title..."?  "Regarding the title of the film, Zahler remarked how " adds nothing.  And "exemplifying how" is unnatural, and then the sentence goes on too long.
 * Tense jumps back and forth -- it looks like some of this was written before the movie came out: "Heller and Sonnier will produce it"; "Jennifer Carpenter will be playing his wife".
 * Other tense problems: "Zahler has enjoyed Vaughn's performances", "Vaughn has seen Zahler's directorial debut".
 * "where there is little editing as possible and allowing the actors to play in-person."
 * More tense issues in the "Principal photography" paragraph; and what does it mean to say the crew lost a location?
 * Why would the aspect ratio depend on whether it was an ensemble cast?
 * "focused on the blue tones in the early parts of the film and progressively becoming darker"
 * "Shooting of the fight scenes is a tedious and stressful process, as actors has to rehearse multiple times and some of the mistakes are where the actors gets punched" -- multiple problems; tense changes, number/verb agreement errors, and the meaning is unclear anyway -- did actors get accidentally punched in this show or is this a general statement?
 * "The film's soundtrack was composed by Zahler's friend Jeff Herriott, having previously worked together in Bone Tomahawk": as written the subject of "having" is the soundtrack.
 * "To meet the purpose of letting the cast act without interference, the score is rarely used in the film" This can't be the intended meaning.