Talk:Breen (Star Trek)

First mention
Weren't the Breen introduced in TOS?


 * No, their first mention was in TNG. Their first onscreen appearance was on DS9.--Fallout boy 10:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Diet
The article says that the Breen "eat algae paste". I assume this is from the DS9 episode "'Til Death Do Us Part" when Worf and Ezri were given that to eat. However they were prisoners. Prisoners are not usually fed what their captors eat. If the Breen diet was not mentioned anywhere else, then shouldn't the line about Breen eating algae paste be removed? Kwyjibear 06:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think it should've been removed, but clarified to indicate that this is what Worf and Ezri were given. I'm going to review that episode, and add it back in with a proper contextual explanation. Nightscream (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Another use of "Breen"
Breen was also the original term for citizens of Bregna in the animated version of Æon Flux. The movie page and video game page made reference to the term "Bregnan", and thankfully, this was not used in the movie. After all, what's the point of having a name for the citizens of a country, when there is only one left?


 * Breen is also the primary bad guy of Half-Life 2, and the narn version of meatballs in Babylon 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.233.196.49 (talk) 11:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Weyoun's Comment
Isn't it possible that Weyoun found the Breen homeworld to be pleasant mearly because he was genetically engineered by the founders? I mean, c'mon, we clearly see him in one episode drinking a bottle of poison laced drink that is udnerstood to be able to kill an organism of any other species many times over!

Picture
That's a pretty terrible picture. Are there better ones out there?

The "contradictions" section
I have significantly trimmed the contradictions section, because it sounded as if it was written by a TNG-loving/DS9-hating Trekkie in that, aside from the fact that it was arguably not an "overhaul" when they were introduced as Dominion allies (given their lack of exposure, literally), most "contradictions can be explained away with a little common sense. The fact that the Breen energy weapon is a great example; who's to say it wasn't simply a new invention? The Breen are held to be fierce warriors, but the energy weapon that disabled the Federation/Romulan/Klingon ships was essentially useless once those fleets adapted. Another is Dukat's mention of a Breen embassy - so it's a frozen wasteland, and he's hoping to send his adversary there because Cardassians hate the cold, so what? It's not at all unbelievable that the Breen, with those complex suits, have technology allowing other species to visit their world. Moulder 22:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It could be that the Breen planet has a mainly frozen environment with a temperate area around the equator, which could be used to allow alien species to visit. Why should the entire planet haev the same climate?

Dan Tessier, 6th April 2007

Affiliation ?
The Breen's affiliation to Dominion can be only assumed to be valid upto the The Treaty Of Bajor, where the existence of the Dominion would be in dispute. Kingbarney 25 June 2007 23:11 UCT


 * I added a clarification to that. Nightscream (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Assessment
I have added a quality assessment rating and importance rating to this article. Feel free to change them as the article improves! Also, feel free to add more issues to the list below, and strike them out ( strike ) when they're completed. — OranL (talk) 22:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Notable issues
The article lacks sources for much of the information which could lead readers to believe that this is original research. User:OranL 22:52, 28 July 2008


 * Most of the info in the article is sourced. The only thing I could find that wasn't was the assertion about them originating a Ferengi Rule of Acquisition, which I removed. What else is unsourced? Nightscream (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The lead section doesn't have any in-line citations. I only see one citation in the History and culture section. If you have sources for any of this information, would you be able to add them using  tags in-line with the text? This way, there will be no question if the information is original research. Thank you for your help! User:OranL 23:57, 28 July 2008

Citations that use the  tags are not the only types of citations. One way to cite a source is to explicitly name the source in the text itself. (i.e.: "In his Pulitzer Prize-winning book, Profiles in Courage, John F. Kennedy said...") Because most of the citations in this article are episodes of the shows, the episode names are thus mentioned. There are two in the Lead section, and nine in the History section, which combined with the one "ref"-formatted one you mentioned, brings the total for that section to ten. Also, please don't add bullets (unless you're listing something) or other unnecessary formatting functions that are not a part of typical Talk Page etiquette. It might confuse the succession of indentations, and make it harder to read the page and differentiate each person's posts. And please make sure to sign your posts, so we know who we're talking to. You can do this by typing four tildes. (~) Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Bad grammar and bad wiring.
The main article says; "The switches for the lights on the helmets were inside them, requiring the actor to remove them in order to turn them on and off. For reasons unknown to production personnel, the nine-volt batteries that powered them only lasted minutes before burning out." (bold emphasis mine)

I ain't no English major but I see some serious pronoun problems with the word "them" as used above. Can someone who is an English major fix this please?

On a side note... Based on some of stories from friends I have heard about similar lighting problems on various movie sets. I would bet a week's pay that the tech who wired the lights on the helmets wired them in series instead of in parallel. Mystery solved, even if it is illegal and supposition. :) 66.102.204.43 (talk) 20:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Nightscream (talk) 23:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Boushh?
No mention of the fact that the Breen look and sound an awful lot like Boushh in Return of the Jedi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.88.243 (talk) 08:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:Verifiability, WP:No Original Research (and in particular WP:SYNTH) Any information added to the article needs to be supported by reliable, verifiable, published sources. Right now, the only ones in the article indicate that the design was derived from ideas other than Star Wars. But if you know of or can find any sources for the resemblance, feel free to add them. Nightscream (talk) 20:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Arctic Wolf
There's a line in Production History: "The look of the Breen masks, which includes a "snout", was derived from the visual suggestion that they are a snouted species, like an Arctic wolf" - There's nothing significant (or especially Breen-like) about the Artic Wolf, as opposed to any wolf, or indeed any snouted animal, lions or bears or badgers (oh my). Is there any actual relationship between the Breen design and specifically Arctic Wolves, or can the reference be removed? -- PaulxSA (talk) 06:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


 * That piece of information, including the specification of an Arctic wolf, is what was given in the cited source. Therefore, it's inclusion is appropriate. Nightscream (talk) 20:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)