Talk:Brewing/Archive 1

Help
Someone has done an extensive re-edit of the page, adding a lot of information but also removing a lot. This page could use some serious help. Wnissen 04:57, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Added
Added some detail about wort separatation. Added a cite Dr Thermo (talk) 05:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Brewery-Brewing merge?
I am doing a big rewrite of the brewery entry. Obviously this will include much information about the process of brewing. Does anyone else think that brewing and brewery should be one page? If they remain two separate pages, how will we keep them differentiated? With brewing concentrating on the inner workings of the process (specific enzymatic workings, isomerization of hops, yeast metabolism), and brewery concentrating on the equipment used in brewing (what a proplerly designed lauter tun has, what a quality whirlpool contains)? Abek 05:08, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

>>>>Why not put all this stuff in with beer? It all fits nicely and the beer article is already rather well organized and informative. Frank

Concur. Combining Beer. Brewing, and Brewery makes sense. Especially given that Brewing is used for very different processes, like making coffee and tea. Dr Thermo (talk) 18:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Soy sauce
Soy sauce is also "brewed". (Kikkoman's webpage says there's also a faster way to make it without brewing, but results in poorer qaulity.) I don't know if it's considered a "fermented beverage" (heh), but I see the word "brewed" on the label there every day, so I guess it's not an uncommon use of the word.

Somebody who knows more about brewing or soy sauce can add a comment if they want. Brewing seems to mean "results in an alcoholic beverage", and I don't actually know if soy sauce has any alcohol in it...

>>>>>One also brews coffee, but it is also no fermented. There are two uses of the word "brew", one describes a process to make sweet fermentable liquid, to which yeast is added. The other use is the changing of any liquid into a radically different state by use of special technique (usually heat). The brewing industry nearly always refers to beer, not Starbucks. --rimbaud 21:45, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

It seems to me that this article deals exclusively with beer brewing and thus the name should be changed to beer brewing to differentiate it from coffee/sake/soysauce/whatever. Actually, all of this stuff would be well placed in the beer article. Why not put it there?
 * Sake, being made from rice (a grain), is technically beer. You can call me Al 15:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

While you definitely brew things to make beer and other similar alcoholic drinks, you do brew other things (tea, coffee, and back in the day root beer and cola), so maybe this article should be brewing in general with one section focusing on alcoholic brewing. Pmadrid 07:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Im not sure about English, but if it's similar to German, there is a clear difference between brewing and brewing:
 * Brewing as an intransitive verb means making beer, nothing else.
 * Brewing in transitive form means preparing a liquid, often in informal speech, and can be combined with any substance.
 * For here, I think the first meaning should be merged in beer and brewery, the second is a topic for wictionary. Brewing can be a simple disambuguation.
 * --Ikar.us 09:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I think that after reading some of these comments, a merge is in order for Brewing to be put into Brewery, considering that they go hand in hand. Radagast83 18:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Cooking!
I came here checking a link I'd made at coffee pot and boy am I glad I did. To add to the above discussion, I added in a couple of lines about other uses; I've no objection to the reference being moved if someone thinks we need brewing (coffee) or tea or love potions or whatever, but if you move, please check WHAT LINKS HERE. Thanks. Quill 06:48, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Brewing for dummies?
I came to this article searching for a simple description of the brewing process, but I found myself bogged down with jargon and more information than I cared to sift through.

I suggest the inclusion of a concise description of the process, perhaps in the introduction.

Notability criteria discusion document
A discussion document has been opened up. WikiProject Beer/Notability Criteria. Please put in your views either on the main page or on the attached talk page. If we want to list every brewery on the planet then I feel we should get some valid criteria behind us. SilkTork 16:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Wine-Beer Schism
Why is there such a big divide between winemaking and beermaking articles? The processes employed in both cases are largely identical. There's a great deal of confusion when it comes to this - most articles claim that a particular process is used only in either beermaking or winemaking, almost never both. The fact is, the processes and techniques that underlie the production of beer and the production of wine are almost exactly the same. It's almost like there is a sort of competition between brewers and aficionados of wine and beer. This nonsense needs to stop; it's detracting from the informative value of Wikipedia by greatly limiting the scope of articles. (Also, the techniques for brewing hard alcohol, i.e. liquor, are the same as beer and wine, with the addition of a final distillation.) Fuzzform (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The only real common element of beer and wine making is fermentation. Wine is not mashed, lautered, or boiled. Whiskey making is more like beer making with the addition of distillation. Expanding the article to include wine making would make the article unwieldy and even less coherent that it is now. Dr Thermo (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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