Talk:Brian Clark (September 11 survivor)

Untitled
The article states that a roof rescue was 'impossible', but there's no cite for this statement/paragraph. It's a matter of fact that there was a helipad on the roof, therefore it is reasonable to suppose that nothing prevented a landing during normal conditions. With regard to the smoke and updraft, an approach from the windward side would have been fairly straightforward.

While it's true to say that the combined circumstances of locked roof doors, confusion, and lack of available helicopters or prior planning made such rescue attempts difficult, they were not 'impossible'. I've removed references to 'impossible' until proper cites can be provided. 82.44.88.178 (talk) 08:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

BLP1E
Can someone please explain why this isn't obviously deletable under WP:BLP1E? This person has no notability other than having survived a single terrorist attack. Isn't this exactly why we have this guideline? Qwyrxian (talk) 00:31, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * BLP1E doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have biographical articles on people only known for their involvement in one event. It means such articles need to be examined carefully. In this case, although Brian Clark's 'notability' relates to the events of one day, it's clear that he has been the subject of continuing media coverage and attention in the years since. That makes him worthy of inclusion. Furthermore, this article was considered for deletion as recently as last March, and the verdict was a unanimous 'keep'. Robofish (talk) 21:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, I see that deletion discussion now--thanks for pointing it out. I guess this is just one of those cases where something is so blindingly obvious to me, but others disagree. Guess I'll just take this off my watchlist so it doesn't irritate me :).  Qwyrxian (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Changes I made
I made some rather drastic changes and additions to the articles body. I had trouble making the old reference work, but if someone wants to add more references, or requests that I do it, then let me know. But I promise you everything I added is true and can be referenced. I have heard Clark's and Praimnath's story a million times, I can recite it as if I was actually there. Both of the men have done multiple video interviews where they tell their story and I have watched all of them and this is exactly what they say in all of them. It might be a little "wordy" but considering the whole notability of Clark is in reference to 9/11, it seems okay to me to elaborate a little more on his story of the day. However I stopped at the descent section, if I get some time I might work on that as well.Zdawg1029 (talk) 18:32, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 13 March 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. The subject achieved notability for surviving the September 11 attacks, not being a businessman. Moves to similar disambiguators to the current one can be made boldly. (non-admin closure) –Chase (talk / contribs) 22:50, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Brian Clark (9/11 attacks survivor) → Brian Clark (businessman) – The current disambiguation 9/11 attacks survivor does not sound very good, specially attacks. I was thinking about suggestion, Brian Clark (9/11 survivor), but than I decided to request Brian Clark (businessman), because the current disambiguation does not sound right, nor correct, specially the word attacks in the disambiguation. Please feel free to vote, and voice your opinion in the additional comments section.  CookieMonster755  (talk)   02:20, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


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 * Oppose the proposal since he is primarily know as a 9/11 survivor. I would suggest we retitle it (September 11 survivor) instead. -- Calidum  14:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Seems like a fine Distribution to me User:Calidum, as long as we don't have attacks in the title, because it just does not sound right. Thanks for your feedback.  CookieMonster755  (talk)   16:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose for the same reasons as Calidum - he is not noted as a businessman, he is noted because of the 9/11 connection. However, I don't see the reason to remove "attacks" from the disambiguator. The article itself is called September 11 attacks. So why not just Brian Clark (September 11 attacks survivor)? &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 15:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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