Talk:Bridget Bishop/Archive 1

Thanks
Though this article is a tiny bit weak, thanks for fulfilling my requests to make it, I know how important she was to Salem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billy Bishop (talk • contribs) 01:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

That's all????? William POWERZ (talk) 11:00, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Edward Bishop
There were at least 3 Edward Bishops and I have read that there were 4 or more of them. 3 of them were father son and grandson, one of whom was Bridget Bishop's husband. I would really like to see a bit more info about this claim that Bridget Bishop's husband signed against her as a witch, this is the first place I have seen the assertion, and at this time, I don't believe it.John5Russell3Finley 16:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed claim that Bridget Bishop's husband signed against her as a witch, removed claim that her step son and daughter in law were arrested before she was, sources listed here that I was able to find and read claim both these assertions to be untrue.John5Russell3Finley 21:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

But I don't think that it was Bridget's fault at any cost William POWERZ (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Just know that opportunity comes once in a life time so if she had an opportunity of becoming a witch then how was she to be blamed seriously I think all of you should use a simple logic of your mind before writing down anything okay William POWERZ (talk) 20:18, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a general discussion forum. This discussion was over eleven years ago.  If you do not have suggestions based on professionally-published mainstream academic sources, please stop posting fantasies.  Ian.thomson (talk) 20:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

First Person Executed in the Salem Witch Trials
This fact is stated twice in the article. It is important, I realize, but I don't know whether or not this redundancy is a problem. Czar Baldy Bald IV 23:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Really how about where this person was buried William POWERZ (talk) 10:56, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

The Tavern
I removed the phrase "she later became the owner of the tavern." because:

1)I think She didn't later become the owner of a tavern in Beverly owned by the Bishops, however if somebody can find a valid and credible source for it (and it would be kind of nice to get a source for the Bishops as actually owning a tavern in Beverly prior to Edward Bishop marrying Bridget) then fine put this back.

2) The Tavern causing all the trouble seems to have been actually located in Salem. See Upham's map which is perhaps still on the web, and identifies the location of the house that was the tavern as being near the meeting house in Salem. (This was much more likely originally the property of her husband Thomas Oliver, which is what Upham seems to say.) John5Russell3Finley 02:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the reference to her having a tavern because she didn't. Historians have figured out that she was confused with Sarah Bishop who did own a tavern. Sarah had a tavern in Salem Village. Bridget lived in Salem Town and denied ever having been to Salem Village - which does seem unlikely but she says this in the trial transcripts.--Courtdog (talk) 17:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed Bishop's Tavern, if you put it back then please footnote the source, this should be easy stuff, since the Bishops were well respected, and if they owned one it will be listed in the records of the "society of the descendants of early New England Tavern Owners", or there will be some reference to the license in the early records of Salem or Beverly.

John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:09, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Sawyer not Lawyer
Everything I read says her husband was a sawyer, not a lawyer. Come on people, let's get this article right! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtdog (talk • contribs) 00:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Wasselbe
Wasselbe, Warilbe etc, and first name of Samuel or Thomas or George, and died at advanced age or at a young age ? All seem to have their proponents, and I can't find primary sources for this stuff, Although Warilbe was the one I grew up with, along with young age, but no one then seemed to know his first name. So, I left the first name as is, and removed the rest. I am not opposed to any of it if you can add a source for it, and I would really like to see a footnote if you want to put it back in, and a primary source for it would be preferable. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Please the next time one of you that thinks you know redoes this thing ref the source for his first name....PLEASE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.101.135.135 (talk) 01:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Boston Vital Records for the year 1665 p 98 has Bridget Wesselbee widow of Samuel both late of Norwich England mother of Mary Wesselbee born Boston MA January 10 1665/1666 John5Russell3Finley (talk) 04:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Today I readded husband 1 with a parenthetical statement which is meant to refer to the New England Vital Records Website originally it was Slaughter's, but I think it may perhaps have other connections ? I will try to link to it, which may not be accomplished very soon. I am unsure of how much copywrite may apply there and so am asking for comments here before I try to do this. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 17:35, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

which one?
This website has differnt information than other websites have..so which one do you believe? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.39.133 (talk) 21:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

recent changes
This was a mess. I hope that I have put together a compromise here that won't suffer too much vandalism, people are often vandalising this series of articles. This article was pretty much factual last year, and no living people were "tarred" in it. Please show a bit of care in the way you present her, I think she may have suffered enough in life, but I wasn't there at the time, so please be kind. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 00:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

No the article was not 'pretty much factual' last year as she was confused with Sarah Bishop and various claims were made that she was hanged because of her dress and drinking games. This article outlines the charges against her. Wikipedia's job is to be factual, not kind. And improving an article with facts isn't vandalism. --71.173.222.138 (talk) 14:41, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I cleaned up the last sentance of the intro, perhaps it should have been an undo, but for now it is just a cleanup. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 21:29, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

We Need Some Help from anyone who works at the Kennedy Library/MA Archives
This article has just been tagged as needing more inline cites/"footnotes". Much of this is public records or historical info available in MA and most easily accessible at the MA State Library-Archives. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, most of the primary documents reside in either the Danvers archive or the Peabody Essex Museum. with an appointment it is fairly easy to get a look at the Danvers archives, but the PEM is a much pricklier customer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.200.250.86 (talk) 02:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

"Ghost Adventures"
With all due respect, "Ghost Adventures" is a entertainment TV show (and, IMHO, an obviously fake one at that). It doesn't warrant a mention here, and whatever information they claim to have uncovered has no bearing on the subject. This section should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.174.232 (talk) 18:28, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You have my "Amen!", 24.61.174.232. I nearly did a spit-take when I read that. Not a reliable source at all. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 20:40, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

potato. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.13.27.16 (talk) 22:25, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

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Witches Granddaughters
Do you even know that their grands still exist???? William POWERZ (talk) 11:05, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Mainstream historians would say accused witches. The "Witch-related tourism" section of the Salem article rather indicates that most people ignored the witch accusations until the TV show Bewitched made people aware of the town (in a fun way, at any rate). Ian.thomson (talk) 12:47, 22 December 2018 (UTC)