Talk:Bridgnorth Cliff Railway

Current prices
An anonymous user changed the current price from 80p for a return (no single tickets available) to £1.75/£2.75 for single/return tickets. As this was a major change I've had a look for sources to confirm this, but I've not found anything. The official website is curerntly not working (requesting authorisation to view) but Google's cache from February 2006 advertises returns for 80p. I've not found any other page with prices that has a date. As such I have reverted the change and updated the as of date to February 2006. Thryduulf 13:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That seems like the right thing to do. Gwernol 13:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The official site now cites 90p, which matches what's now on this page. I've updated the "as of" date. Rojomoke (talk) 12:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Ownership / operatorship
The article contains the following:


 * Although it remains in the town's ownership, the railway has been operated by a private company, the Bridgnorth Castle Hill Railway Company Ltd, since 1995.

This is not reflected in the history section, which indicates that the company built the line back in the 19th century, and gives no indication of subsequent municipal ownership. The history section is properly sourced; the above statement is not. So I've marked it as needing citation. -- Waterstones 13:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hum. Further digging shows the source of the above statement (the BBC web site now referenced) but it is a bit of a misquote. What the BBC says is that current owners of the company have operated it since 1995. A company search (also now referenced) shows the company was incorporated in 1970. How that squares with the company incorporated in 1891 is not clear. It could just be the same name was used for a different company. If anybody can clarify, please do. -- Waterstones 15:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Gradient
The article contains the following... Maximum Steepness: 64% ...where does 64% come from? The official site says... "When finished, the track measured 201 ft long, with a vertical rise of 111ft. This gave the railway an incline of 33°, the steepest in England." The sign at the top of the railway in Bridgnorth also says 33°; I've also checked the maths and I get 33.5° — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altfish (talk • contribs) 21:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Percentage gradient isn't the same thing as degrees of slope angle. Both are (doing the sums in my head) approximately correct, they're just in different units. IMHO the percentage figure is better, as the more commonly used. I've reverted this though, because 33% (percent) just isn't right either way. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll bow to your better knowledge, but (humour me here) does that mean a 45 degree of slope (ie 1 in 1) is a 100% gradient? comment added by Altfish (talk —Preceding undated comment added 23:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Read the gradient article. This stuff is derived from roadbuilding, so it's based on $$\frac{rise}{run}$$ where "run" is the distance along the road surface (easy to measure) rather than the horizontal offset that surveying, or even funicular building, would make more obvious. With most typical road gradients, the difference is trivially unimportant. However for steep angles, like a funicular, it makes a difference.
 * 45º has a run of 1 and a rise of 0.707, so that's 71% (or 1 in 1.4). "1 in 1" would be vertical. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:08, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Saltburn cliff lift
Saltburn has the oldest cliff lift 2A00:23C7:2518:E701:74F6:7A4F:F36F:6613 (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2022 (UTC)