Talk:British American Racing

Demise of BAR
BAR is no more. It has ceased to be. It 'as shuffled off this mortal coil. Someone is adding 2006 Honda details to this article on BAR. This years results etc should be on the Honda F1 page. Please don't revert the changes I've just made without a discussion here. 4u1e 20:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, BAR only two pole positions (San Marino '04 and Canada '05), not 3 as stated. Jenson Button has 3 poles but his third was achieved in a Honda. Thunderous503 14:35, 22 August 2006
 * In particular, BAR never won a race, end of story. Honda took over the team and won their first race since the 1960s in 2006, but this should be (and is) covered in the Honda F1 article.


 * Agree - if we had one article for BAR and Honda, Toleman/Benetton/Renault would have to be merged to maintain consistency - seperation is appropriate. Adrian M. H. 19:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Jenson Button Photo
The photo of Jenson button is titled "Jenson Button driving for British American Racing at Indianapolis in the 2005 United States Grand Prix" yet no cars other than Ferrari, Minardi, and Jordan participated in that GP. I'm not sure where the picture is from, but it probably should be 2004 or labeled 2005 qualifying. --152.121.16.49 16:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "Grand Prix" often refers to the hour or two on a Sunday when the cars actually race. However "Grand Prix" can also refer to the Grand Prix weekend. In this case the weekend in question was 17-19 June (with the race on the 19th). The picture is from either a free practice session or qualifying (i.e on the 17th or 18th). Also the 2004 livery was quite different from this image. Having said that changing it to "2005 qualifying" would be more precise. Mark83 10:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Speed Record Attempt
I have undone the last alterations. The explanation is below.

The last alterations made to the Speed Record Attempt section were not meant to inform. They are clearly an opinion of a CART fan who changed the text to praise CART and bash F1. The speed record attempt was to break the 400km/h barrier with a F1 car according to 2005 F1 regulations, so no comparison to past CART cars is useful to the reader of the article. You can compare how slow CART cars are compared to rocket-powered cars as well, but that has nothing to do with BAR and its speed record attempt, the same is applied to the comparison between CART and F1 cars. Tilinelson2 (talk) 17:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)