Talk:British Rail Class 05

Photographs at Didcot Railway Centre
While the locomotive featured in these photographs IS a Hunslet 0-6-0DM, I do not think it is a British Rail Class 05. I am quite sure that it is a similar locomotive built for Industrial use.

Genuine British Rail Class 05s can be found on the Isle of Wight, a private site in Herefordshire and Preston Docks. AHEMSLTD 20:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Have flicked through a few books and I can confirm this locomotive was never owned by British Rail. It was built in 1957 for 'Stock' and finally sold to the NCB in 1962 for use in Derbyshire. It could well have been built at the same time as the first 05s but lacks mainline features. AHEMSLTD 16:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I don't quite understand why it has a BR logo on the cab then. chowells 19:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

When you start looking around there are an enormous number of Ex-industrial locomotives painted as things they are, or were, not. In this case, I am guessing that the loco was purchased as a yard shunter, available at the right time and right price (not my first choice, don't get me started on Hunslet gearboxes), then someone has decided that it is close enough to a BR 05 to paint it like on (it fits in better, or more people will be interested). In the case of British Rail Class 02s, I think there are more industrial 'look-alikes' then genuine 02s!

In defence of the people who do this, not enough people are interested in idustrial railways/locomotive to support the locomotives that exist and the general public tend to be more interested in things they recognise (like locos with a BR totom). I take my hat off to the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway who not only painted a 03 shunter in 'their' colours, but also gave it their number.

If it was up to me, I would have changed the photo file names, left the 05 page until there is are good photos of a genuine loco and also put at least one on the Hunslet Engine CO page. AHEMSLTD 13:32, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Two types of class 5 - page move
Since both the Andrew Barclay and Hunslet engines get called "Class 05" (see British Rail Class D2/5 and this article) I think a disambiguation page is a good idea, and move this page to "BR Class 05 (Hunslett)" or something else. Alternatively the articles could be merged into one - since despite having different manufacturers and part suppliers they appear to be similar enough to merge.

For the time being I've added a link in the lead about the other class 05s.Shortfatlad (talk) 15:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The Barclays are NOT listed as Class 05 in either of Marsden's latest definitive works (2011, October and 2011, November). best, Sunil060902 (talk) 19:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * That's news to me. Years ago I was told there were two types, now someone rewrites history and its the gospel truth. 70.72.183.55 (talk) 02:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Seen a list, published in one of the railway periodicals in 1968, that does list both the Andrew Barclay and Hunslet types as TOPS class 05. Since that list is contemporary I would believe it more than anything published recently. 68.69.26.209 (talk) 15:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)