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Teddy Bears?
Where did that ridiculous Great Bear/Teddy Bear story start? We called them 'Teddy Bears' because of the 'sad eyes' expression of the cab windows when the loco was seen end-on. The Great Bear was built 56 years before. Nobody working at Swindon in 1964 would even remember it. 92.26.157.153 (talk) 00:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Road Switcher?
Should we call it a road switcher since it is designed for both mainline freight and yard switching duites? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.93.152.192 (talk) 22:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No, for several reasons: one, you need to satisfy the policy on verifiability; two, these are British locomotives, and "road switcher" is an American term; three, the primary purpose was to haul goods trains from station to station. Although one of the stations might be a marshalling yard, and a certain amount of shunting could be carried out at a station, this was always a secondary task. Indeed, all UK locomotives - not just diesels - that might haul trains on the main line could be called upon to attach or detach carriages or wagons at any of the stations where it called. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:47, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * No. There are several reasons why not:
 * "Road switcher" is a term with no recognition in the UK. This is beyond COMMONNAME, UNDUE, ENGVAR or whatever, it's into "Don't write country-specific articles in a foreign language."
 * There was no call for road switchers in the UK's 1955 Modernisation Plan. The Type 1s were working on branch lines where the speeds were inevitably lower than those which involve the "road switcher" concept.
 * There is an argument that the class 20s (and nothing else) were the same thing as road switchers, and were used in a way similar to road switchers. Except that this would only be over a few years: they did both things, but not at the same time. Also, see #1.
 * This is the article on class 14s. Really? Do you know anything about the class 14?  You're just spamming this term randomly because you want to, not because there's the slightest justification for it.  On the class 20 you'd have an argument (you'd still be wrong, but you'd have a reason) But here?  You're just doing this to be disruptive. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:37, 21 December 2018 (UTC)