Talk:British Rail Classes 112 and 113

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Can we be sure that this image is a Class 112? IIRC the 112s and 113s had a 4-position headcode in the roof dome, not a two-position headcode in the cab front. It's certainly a Cravens unit, but I suspect that it's either a or. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:55, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


 * No idea. I'm just going by Commons cats here Andy Dingley (talk) 13:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I've found a book with diagrams
 * and apparently it was only cars M51731-80 (i.e. class 113) that had the four-character headcode; M51681-730 (class 112) had the two-character like this photo - and they were allocated to Cricklewood after 1967. But the two-character box was also applied to the later Class 105 cars: 50249, 50752-817, 51254-301, 51471-94, 56412-83. So it could be correct after all. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * and apparently it was only cars M51731-80 (i.e. class 113) that had the four-character headcode; M51681-730 (class 112) had the two-character like this photo - and they were allocated to Cricklewood after 1967. But the two-character box was also applied to the later Class 105 cars: 50249, 50752-817, 51254-301, 51471-94, 56412-83. So it could be correct after all. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)