Talk:British electric multiple units

Early comments
I'm going to move this to British diesel and electric multiple units for now as the article does refer solely to british trains. The article does need a lot of work though--Enotayokel 10:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the links to Sprinter and Turbo, because they currently only point to disambiguation pages. Should Sprinter point to British Rail Class 150, or does it include other classes as well? This meaning of Turbo needs adding to Turbo. CarolGray 16:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The 'Sprinter' branding includes all the Class 15X sets - 150/153/154/155/156/158/159. James R 23:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Rating
The rating to C can be achieved with some refs. Simply south..... 17:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Definition of Multiple Unit
Strictly speaking a multiple unit train is one which is fitted with a control system and coupling so that when coupled to one or more other trains, the whole formation is fully controllable by one driver (unions, regulations etc permitting). If this is impossible, as it it was with the GWR railcar illustrated, then the train is not a multiple unit.Barney Bruchstein (talk) 19:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Interesting point. But your definition would imply that, say, a 3-car British Rail Class 101 DMU is not really a multiple unit unless connected to another 3-car unit (for example), and hence the term "DMU" is incorrect. We are in need of some reference sources here! -- EdJogg (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not the train, but the vehicle that counts. Such a 3-car DMU has 2 motor vehicles with 4 engines linked by multiple-unit train control.  I thought we'd gone through this discussion before WRT multiple unit -- railcars only count if they can work in multiple (eg British Rail Class 153).  So, I'd agree with Barney that railcars and autotrains shouldn't be in the article, unless there is a specific section of pre-history. Tim PF (talk) 23:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Export
What about MUs that were only manufactured for export? 203.198.25.204 (talk) 06:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed split
I suggest that this article be split into
 * British electric multiple units to cover the EMUs and
 * British diesel multiple units to cover the DMUs and the railcars they replaced.

After adding the first part of a section on the origins of British EMUs I feel that the article switches unnecessarily between EMUs and DMUs without much overlap. Edgepedia (talk) 05:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

As there was no opposition, I split the article anyway. I moved the diesel related text out to British railcars and diesel multiple units, so the history can consider the original railcars and how these have become the DMUs of today. Edgepedia (talk) 20:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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GRALISTAIR (talk) 02:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)This article needs a serious update. I have made a start and will continue