Talk:Britney Jean

Edit request on 1 November 2013
Under the section for cover and artwork, she released the cover in October, not August

Asoyars (talk) 09:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 09:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

While I think this page is mostly accurate there are some incorrect info specifically when it comes to the songwriters. For example: the track called 'Passenger' is said to have the songwriters mentioned from someone's tweet but I did some research on twitter and that tweet got deleted so the mentioned list of supposed songwriters for the track is not valid. Little flaws like this are the reason why I am submitting an edit request. Thanks for hearing.

Westernassisin (talk) 12:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. For every instance of something you want replaced, list it explicitly. —  The J J  J unk  ( say hello ) 14:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Uncredited Writing Contribution?
This was printed July 2012, and features lyrics very similar to the ones in the song "Till It's Gone". Should anything from this be counted in the page, possibly as a footnote to the tracklisting? I'm assuming not, since "tumblr" isn't exactly a source. http://imperialdestruction.tumblr.com/post/27184491155/its-gone 75.26.253.200 (talk) 01:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "never know what you have till it’s gone" is a common phrase, and the only thing that is similar between the two compositions. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 03:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "I try all the time to turn to a new page / But everybody locks me in a cage / With you, my heart had been misplaced / And now I can never escape your face" vs. "I try every night to turn the page / But daylight can confine me to a cage / In my mind the life we had replaced / Now every where I turn I see your face" is the similarity. 75.26.253.200 (talk) 05:52, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The lyrics are actually: "I try every night to turn the page / But daylight can't confine me to a cage / In my mind the life we had replays / Now every where I turn I see your face." Nevertheless, a similarity =/= an Uncredited Writing Contribution. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 13:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Ingrosso?
Didn't produce work bitch...
 * Look at the liner notes of the "Work Bitch" CD here. He did. --Markhoris (talk) 10:10, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Seb mentioned he didn't work on "Work Bitch" on Twitter but I'm assuming he produced an instrumentation that will.i.am heard and decided to re-work and use in the final mix so he ultimately got credited for that but he didn't directly work on the song. Gcampbell92 (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Promotion
Excuse me but it's not right to say she didn't promote. On top of Good Morning America and the E! documentary, she did countless radio interviews, she gave ET, E! and Extra interviews on TV. She went to the UK were she did 5 minutes TV interviews for Germany, France and the UK. She gave interviews to DayBreak, Stylin' In, Would You Rather? ('4music' channel) and This Morning in the UK. She went to Chatty Man too in the UK and gave promotion to Work Bitch. She gave a "release preview" party to all iHeart radio partners (radio stations) across the USA and it was even filmed. She went to the Ellen show today, her UK publicist confirmed another TV interview next week and she hosted Sirius XM Thanksgiving countdown. On top of that she is hosting AT40 with Ryan Seacrest this weekend, she will appear on a UK show called "Surprise Surprise" and she is expected to appear today at a Planet Hollywood welcome party.

It seems to me that an angry fan who thinks promotion is "performing" only wrote this shady article. It is biased to say she didn't promote at all or to leave all the above promotion without any mention. As far as I know, "Chatty Man" and "Ellen" alone is better promotion than Femme Fatale.

As to whether she promoted or not is subject to one's own personal opinion. Consultation of the fan sites show much contention on this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.150.35 (talk) 07:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't Cry Production Credit Change
Under the following section:


 * Zach "Reazon" Heiligman
 * William "DJ Keebz" Kebler
 * LWAM

All three should be changed from to

Source: I am William "DJ Keebz" Kebler" and this production credit was changed before album release.

Thanks

DjKeebz (talk) 22:06, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Thanks for wanting to correct this, but we need a verifiable, reliable source for the information. You could confirm your identity somehow, but the facts still wouldn't be verifiable. Better to correct the information in an interview or on an official website then provide that source. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 05:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The ironic thing is that this the source people are using when posting the credits. I have the new credits and could post a picture or you can contact me via my website for identity proof www.keebz.com not really sure what else to do but this is actually effecting my other projects i am bidding. What can I do? thanks, DjKeebz (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.174.45 (talk) 22:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The source for these credits that people are using is the official Britney Jean booklet. I suppose that you as DJ know that that is a legal document used in every major release and is the most reliable source. I don't say there are not errors with booklets sometimes, but when there are issues, the performers usually place the right credits on their websites or similarly. We don't have that case here (yet!). Cheers! — Tomíca (T2ME) 22:37, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * How bout we hold off on the edit request and see where the discussion leads.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 02:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Artwork
Is this the actual album artwork? Her picture looks in colour as opposed to black and white, as I have seen it everywhere else on the internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.64.61.167 (talk) 09:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The Deluxe version is the one with the black and white cover, the standard version is the one shown in the infobox. --Markhoris (talk) 09:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Concept Album?
This album is listed as a concept album... Yeah, okay, there is a source that claims that this is, but this shouldn't be taken as golden. This is more of an opinion. A concept album wouldn't have "Work B****" as a song that follows the track "Alien". It's clear this is just a standard pop album. Comparing to previous Britney albums, "In The Zone" is the only album she has done to date that could be considered a concept album. Other comparisons are Janelle Monae's "The ArchAndroid" album and Madonna's "American Life" album.

Commercial Failure?
I can't undestand why it's listed as a commercial failure, while it's sold 100,000 copies on its first week just in the US. Other albums are listed as a 'moderate success' or even 'hits' when charting at top 10 in a minor country... I think it should be listed as a moderate success. It's a bit offensive, i think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.57.9 (talk) 22:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * By comparison to Britney's strong track record before (six #1's, one #2 in the United States), I don't think it's unfair to say that it underperformed, but I think that labeling it as a failure is mildly subjective. WikiRedactor (talk) 17:58, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2014
In the Genre section of the description of the album, edit the lower case first letter 'p' in "pop" to have the first 'P' in upper case, as it should read "Pop" not "pop" as its the first item in the list of genres.

24.171.242.147 (talk) 04:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

✅ I've also de-capitalized some later genres as Template:Infobox_album "Note that most genres aren't proper nouns, and shouldn't be capitalized, but the first word in the list should be." although I've previously had arguments as to whether Techno is a proper noun or not. Arjayay (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Two new album certifications...
The album was certified Gold in Brazil and in Venezuela. The source is Sony's facebook page of the respective countries. But here is my question, is that source reliable enough to include it on this page? I've seen that in the Avril Lavigne album certifications they include sources like twitter and facebook accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtvdeo (talk • contribs) 16:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

3rd Single
I deleted the section about the 3rd single being Tik Tik Boom! There hasn't been any official announcement regarding what the 3rd single will be and if there will be a 3rd single! Unless someone provides proof, it should not be re-posted on here! 24.138.180.140 (talk) 09:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Tik Tik Boom
Not enough info to warrant an individual article. Most of the sources here come from album reviews; per WP:NSONG, it is more appropriate for such content to be included in the album article. Other info is not substantial and can easily be merged. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * support per WP:NSONGS. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 15:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Hell yeah, and close this also. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 20:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * support per WP:NSONGS.  It's not a single. Merge! Tobyjamesaus (talk) 04:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Against The fact that this song has not been released as a single is not a good enough argument to merge it. In fact, many albums have songs which have their own pages, and if you only want to read about this song, people should not need to read through the whole album article to find info about the song. Furthermore, i think the page contains good information and looks good as it is. If necessary, I can hunt down more info if needed. Thewormsplayer (talk) 19:04, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * While single release ≠ notability, and non-single release ≠ non-notable, the article is a WP:CFORK as almost all coverage from secondary sources is material found from album reviews. One secondary source independent of the album is not enough to warrant a separate article.  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 15:53, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Against Don't know why only Rihanna has the right to have articles from all of her songs (non-singles), because the articles from "Fool in Love" and "Do Ya Thang" (which are bonus tracks), only have coverage from secondary sources (in material found from album reviews - and very few reviews - two are from very unknown sources). "Tik Tik Boom" has the same right as those Rihanna songs, it's unnecessary to merge the article, as well as other articles from the album (if they were created), because some of the songs has charted and they have enough material to have its own page as well. It's not right to allow only one artist to have articles from all of her songs (including BONUS TRACKS)!!!! FanofPopMusic (talk) 13:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:WAX - this discussion is about "Tik Tik Boom", not any Rihanna song. Any song article that doesn't need to be on Wiki may be proposed for merging or deletion; I have nominated the two Rihanna articles (and 18 others) for deletion following your comment. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:31, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not agree that only singles have the right to have their own page here on Wikipedia, my concern was that only her has so many articles about non-singles, and people are here trying to merge "Tik Tik Boom", but it's not necessary. I defend that if any song from an album stands out from its chart position and have enough material to have a decent page here, it deserves its own page. FanofPopMusic (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Songwriting Credits
Britney Spears is credited for co-writing every single song on 'Britney Jean' (including all bonus tracks). The information is available on the BMI website and the 'Britney Jean' album liner (info includes all bonus tracks). The AllMusic website also has the same information (standard edition). Britney Spears' name comes first in the album liner. Israell (talk) 22:51, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Perfume=Final Single?
Has it been confirmed that Perfume was the final single for the album? If so can proof/source be provided, if there isn't then can it be removed from the sentence. 24.138.180.140 (talk) 09:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ – a third single looks unlikely, but including "final" is a WP:CRYSTAL violation as of now, and there's not much point in including that word anyway. –Chase (talk / contribs) 15:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Voice double/Myah Marie controversy
Should the Myah Marie controversy be included in the article? Short story: Myah Marie recorded several vocal takes using Britney's signature singing style & tone and such takes were used as lead vocals in most songs of the album (most notably in "Passenger", "Alien", "Body Ache", "Tik Tik Boom" adlibs, etc.) yet she isn't credited, not even as a background vocalist.

The recording session files for "Alien" leaked months ago so we definitely know Myah actually did record backing and lead vocals (even though she's never mentioned in the credits of this song) while Britney only recorded the verses but not the chorus/hook, also Britney's "take me home" line was replaced with one of the takes Myah recorded as you can hear in the final mix of the song. The same situation happened with the song "Passenger" (Britney singing during the verses / Myah singing during the chorus, bridge & high notes) as many people already speculated since the song leaked shortly before the album release and was ultimately confirmed by a number of fans who got hold of the recording session files and months later a couple of DJs released 2 remixes with Britney's original takes and replaced Myah's parts with backing vocals Sia recorded for the song just like she did with "Perfume" (she co-wrote both songs).jrcaporal (talk) 20:40, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you have reliable sources documenting this? –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * An article addressing the rumors after "Passenger" leaked and fans on twitter did not buy Britney's new vocal abilities.


 * Nick* (a very talented DJ & longtime Britney fan that has remixed her songs since 2007 who has no reason to lie about the matter only for publicity since he's not really a full-time DJ and he knows he would get in trouble) has replied to angered Britney fans on his twitter a couple of times in the past because he's the one that got the recording session files from various Britney songs in 2013 and has remixed "Alien", "Passenger", "Perfume", "Hold On Tight" and "Tik Tik Boom": On Myah singing the chorus and bridge on "Passenger" back in December, 2013 / On the scandal not being a theory but a solid fact


 * Nick* also made an statement when his Acoustic Mix for "Passenger" featuring untouched Britney vocals and Sia was released online: Hi! Just to clear this up, apparently Britney only sang the verses and Myah filled in the hook and bridge – most likely due to time constraints, not ability. We wanted to make this a Britney/Sia duet, since Sia has such an interesting style on her own. Hence we named it Britney Spears & Sia, not Britney Spears featuring Sia. From BreatheHeavy.com. Sia's vocals were used because there were no files for the chorus and bridge with Britney's voice, only Myah as both lead and backing vocals and Sia as backing vocals only.


 * Here are the two remixes without Myah Marie: Acoustic Mix & EDM Remix by another DJ.


 * "Alien" Recording Session clips, Britney's parts start only after 1:03 which can be confirmed if you listen to the leaked files from the recording session found online. Again, files labelled as Myah are used as lead vocals for the chorus and no Britney files for those parts of the song are to be found at all. The leaked files also contain the raw out-of-tune vocals that went viral last year (note the original take me home line with Britney's voice, not present in the Album version and the chorus part being sung by Ana Diaz, the songwriter since there are no files with Britney's voice for the chorus). jrcaporal (talk) 02:27, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

It most certainly should be in the article. Previously in her career, Britney was dogged by rumors that she lipsynched to many of her songs, which she and her team vehemently denied. Current day, few people apart from her manager, Larry Rudolph, dispute that BRitney does in fact mime, has admitted to singing to playback in an infamous video that has surfaced, and has been in trouble numour times for not lipsynching well. Now it appears that she may have also developed a pattern of stealing her background vocalist's voice. Given that the album's sales were lackluster and that the fans admit they largerly dislike this album, the primary reason for this can be directly linked not only to the fact that her fans feel that Britney does not sing her own songs, but also to the feeling of betrayal that comes from this, as Britney promised this was her most "personal" album ever.

Here is a link to her fan page where fans admit they dislike the album and feel Myah was the singer: http://www.breatheheavy.com/exhale/index.php?/topic/741702-setting-the-record-straight-britney-jean-is-a-good-album/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:C002:D83A:F120:698C:7888:C85F (talk) 22:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

gold
"Britney Jean" has gone gold in venezuela it posted on sony music official page in facebook please dont remove it.[] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.124.150 (talk) 23:01, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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Britney Jean US Gold
Good morning, recently the RIAA certificied Britney Jean with a gold certification for sold 500,000 copies in the country https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=BRITNEY+SPEARS&ti=BRITNEY+JEANElmisterioso1979 (talk) 15:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is already on the article. You were reverted because you changed the pure sales figure from 260,000 to 500,000. Remember, certifications are not entirely sales. They still consist of physical copies shipped, and streams as well.  Ss  112   20:33, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

It Should Be Easy single status
I don't know why It Should Be Easy is still displayed as single. The only reference is an Italian website that lists it, with a fan-made cover. There's no official statement elsewhere about the song ever being released as a single, either from the record label, Britney's social media, official website, etc. The only form of release it had was as a remix exclusively issued to clubs, even the article itself links to the reference that mentions Britney's reps denying It Should Be Easy was the third single off the album.

Even if we were to take that Italian radio release as true, the Template:Infobox album says that promotional and radio singles shouldn't be listed: Do not add specialty- or limited-release singles, such as those supplied to radio stations and music publications, which are often marked as "Promo copy" or "Promotional".. In that same topic, many other tracks from the album were also sent for testing purposes to American radio stations, and they're not listed as singles, because they weren't.

Finally, if we're gonna take that Italian page as gospel, it also lists Matches, and I don't see it being listed as a single on the Glory page. Pokémon Spears (talk) 01:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:STYLE
Please read WP:STYLE before changing correct English grammar to incorrect grammar. Even the sources cited use the correct grammar, and the formatting is now inconsistent all the way through again like it was before I fixed it. Your edits are borderline disruptive, as are your inconsistent and incorrect grammar in an Encyclopedia with its own clearly defined WP:STYLE. —Cprice45 (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)