Talk:Broken Sword

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I have been trying to disambiguate some of the articles that link to Congo.

The section of this article named Broken Sword 3: The Sleeping Dragon states The Knights Templar return in another globetrotting adventure, taking the protagonists to Glastonbury, Paris, Cairo, Prague and the Congo.

As congo is linked there I wondered if anyone knew if the game refers to Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Belgian Congo, Congo River basin or maybe just Congo River.

If anyone knows could they fix the offending link. thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.210.52 (talk • contribs)

Islamophobia
How about to link or mention "Broken Sword - The Shadow of the Templars" one of most successful PC adventure games titles, in connection with Islamophobia in a France? I think it's the only adventure game title, with hundreds of Islamophobic remarks, which made quite big commercial success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.72.244.250 (talk) 23:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Clean up
congrats on whoever cleaned up this article. I saw it a couple of months ago and it was all other the place, i would have done it myself but i didnt know where to start. good one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.235.134.79 (talk • contribs)

GBA version
This line is self-contraditiory: The GBA version has several bugs that made completing the game impossible. (Please note that even with the bugs the GBA version is still beatable) Either this game is or isn't completable. So I have removed it until we have a source that says one way or the other. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 15:03, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * "the GBA version is completable (obviously), but you can do things in a certain order that breaks the game, preventing you from finishing it", answered by Revolution's Joost Peters. -- Lightkey 23:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The game is completable, I have done it myself, however I did encounter one of these bugs and it did require me to restart the game. However, I could recall everything I needed to do to get back to that point, and doing so took me less than an hour. In fact given the stunning voice acting and beautiful artowkr in this game, having to restart was a joy :P


 * Except the GBA version has no voice acting... Liam Markham (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

spoiler
"It has been confirmed since August 2nd 2006 that this will be the final in the Broken Sword series, as the hero George Stobbart will die towards the end of the fourth installment." By whom, and is this spoiler necessary? --Dandelions 02:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Eh, rumors I've read is that someone will die... However speculation includes, Nico or George Stobbart... I don't think anyone knows who will die if anyone dies69.225.9.90

Fan-made games
Does Broken Sword 2.5, a fan-made game, really need to be on this page? It strikes me as being most unencyclopedic, and I'd be inclined to remove all mention of it. -- H. Carver 21:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fan made games must cite reliable, secondary sources. I have placed a maintenance tag in that section for now. If nothing is forthcoming, it should be removed. Marasmusine (talk) 13:12, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, still no sourcing, so I'm removing it. Marasmusine (talk) 08:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit issues
Hi,

I was asked to take a look at this matter and thought I'd drop a short note.

This dispute revolves around three issues: links, civility, and article ownership.

Please listen carefully. Wikipedia works by consensus, and so what you have said above really only means you are content the links are okay. It cannot mean they are going to be okay for everybody. You were told at ANI about 4 months ago, that disruption to editing, OWNership of articles (as if you have a say on them more than other people) and ignoring others and consensus instead using personal attack is not right. But I don't see any sign it has changed enough yet. What would help a lot is to be prepared to discuss the links you like, and understand a bit what others feel too, and be prepared in the end to accept others views as well as ask them to accept yours.
 * Firstwind:

As an encyclopedia, we are often very selective about links. It's not unusual for good links to exist that are left out due to "already got enough good ones". That might be what's up. But in any case you need to start working with others. Working in a way that is "by yourself" without others doesnt work here. You also need to discuss the article not the people, so comments like "little rats" are not okay, and if I hear of incivility again then you may end up blocked perhaps, which would be a shame. So please take care to be civil and use good words.

The other thing that might help is, instead of arguing over policies, and accusing each other of not having a clue, may I suggest visit WP:3O and ask for an opinion on the links in question? That way you will get unbiased answers and views. It is incivil to argue this way; if there is a problem, then discuss and find an answer that works, or seek help to do so from others in the community.

Yes it was wrong to say incivil things. If it repeats it will be a problem, and if disruption continues it's a problem. But even so, don't over react. And if you feel the links are wrong, then try to explain why as well, and find agreement. But don't be incivil either.
 * Everyone else:

I won't be mediating, but mediation is open if anyone wants it, and I think it would be the best answer for everyone. Please see WP:MEDIATION. I'm going to leave my comnments there, but I hope they will be taken note of. If the incivilities continue from either side, please let me know. I'll be glad to come back. Meantime though, communicate and seek help, and discuss. Don't just attack each other. FT2 (Talk 17:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Broken Sword 5 ?
Does anyone know if this is in the pipeline please? Thanks  SmokeyTheCat    •TALK•  16:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Character Redirect
There's no article on George Stobbart. If you want to read about the character, you are directed to the "Broken Sword characters" article. Going to George's entry directs you to the "George Stobbart main article" which is just a redirect back to Broken Sword. I hate it when this happens. Should the character list be edited so that the information that no longer exists is available? Atypicaloracle (talk) 04:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Also true of Nico Collard. - Mister Smythe (talk) 18:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Translation
Please translate this article into Dutch, because it is a very popular game in The Netherlands too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.208.169.94 (talk) 21:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts on the article as it stands
I was solicited to offer up opinions on how to improve the article, so my thoughts follow as such:
 * I don't think you need to name all the games right there from the get-go in the lead. I'd take a more macro focus--the first game, when it was released, who's developed and published the games, how many have been made, when the last one was.
 * The second paragraph should prolly give more of an overview of the plot and gameplay elements common to the titles. Not having played the games I was somewhat confused when it started talking about Templars :)
 * I wonder if you really need the game list, at least on its own. Much of it is duplicated in the "development" section. Perhaps you could shunt those "vital stats" like release dates and platforms into a table that can accompany the development section?
 * You really should summarize the reception of each of the games, in addition to providing basic aggregate scores. That's probably the biggest hole in coverage this game has.
 * "The Shadow of the Templars and its sequels were critical and commercial successes, selling more than four million copies and earning over a hundred million pounds." Where's the source for this, and why isn't it mentioned in the body of the article? Everything in the lead should be.
 * I'd be careful of allowing press releases and marketing lingo get into your prose. Take the following passage:
 * "The new features include an exclusive interactive digital comic from Dave Gibbons, fully animated facial expressions, enhanced graphics, high quality music, a context-sensitive hint system, diary, and a Dropbox integration which facilitates a unique cross-platform save-game feature, enabling players to enjoy the same adventure simultaneously on multiple devices. It also featured full Game Center integration – including in-game achievements.[29] The Mac and PC versions followed in early 2011.[30]"
 * What does "fully animated" mean? "Enhanced"? "High quality"? Who says it's got a "unique" save system? Who says players are "enjoy"ing the game simultaneously? Just be careful to be more neutral.

Overall it's a great start to the article. If you have any further questions ping me on my talk. Cheers. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 22:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed on the first point. In particular, regarding the "development" section, I feel that *it* should be split into sections, per game, or expository detail moved into each games' own page.  The one section is too long.  As a compromise, consider producing a section for BS1&2 combined (as that's a coherent development "era"), then small separate sections for BS3, BS4 and one for the Kickstarted "Broken Sword: The Serpent's Curse", effectively BS5.  Each has a notable aspect to it.  Specifically;  BS3, first poorly regarded foray into 3D;  BS4, first poorly regarded foray into outsourcing development);  BS5, first well regarded foray into crowd-sourced funding.  And so on.  Also, BS1 has a particularly notable puzzle (the goat), which has several references, and a legacy of it's own.  Beyond that, we need either to enrich each section so it stands on it's own, within the context of the article, or trim it back and migrate information into the main articles. 216.51.42.66 (talk) 20:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

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