Talk:Bronxville, New York

Gramatan Hotel
the article states that the Gramatan was torn down and replaced by townhouses as of 1980, yet the photograph of the Gramatan clearly shows cars from way later than 1980. I do not live anywhere near Bronxville and have no idea what the truth is but it seems the article's text needs correction. Wikigreenwood (talk) 02:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Just uncovered this talk page while making another note below--this image is of the extremely small remaining portion of the Gramatan hotel (the torn down portion, which constituted the vast majority of the hotel, were located atop the hill, just out of frame, as are the townhouses that went up in its place). The image should probably clarify this, and that the visible remainder is now subdivided into restaurants, stores, and an elevator for use by the condo-owners.108.54.207.195 (talk) 23:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Untitled
Can someone tell me about the controversy, if any, about Sarah Lawrence College, Bronxville, Yonkers, and the zip code boundaries?


 * What controversy? The borders of a postal district do not always correspond exactly with the town/city/what-have-you that it shares a name with.  In this case, the Village of Bronxville (the political entity) and the "Bronxville Postal District" don't have exactly the same borders.  Sarah Lawrence is located in Yonkers but has a Bronxville postal address.  (Why doesn't it have an Yonkers address?  I dunno.  But it doesn't.) Sean Martin (talk) 23:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Mentioned on Law & Order SVU
I'm not sure if it was really shot in Bronxville but they mentioned it on law and order svu should that be on "bonxville in popular cultcure" ?

Zip Code Issue
It is unnecessary to refer to my changes as a "rant". It is equally as unnecessary to dismiss the facts that I posted with the instructions that I should "get over" the misinformation that has been posted. That being said, if SLC were not properly in Bronxville, then its address would not be "1 Mead Way, Bronxville NY 10708." If Sarah Lawrence were officially in Yonkers, and if it wished to change its address for public relations purposes, then it would have opened a POBox in Bronxville. This was the case, for example, with Warren Wilson College in Swannanoa, NC, which opened a POBox in Asheville, NC as its official address for PR reasons. SLC, on the other hand, is officially and has always been in Bronxville. A call to the school's archivist will confirm this. This has nothing to do with my opinion on the subject. It is simply fact. I personally do not care what address the school may have, but I feel obligated to correct misinformation; it is the nature of this website.
 * Actually, the original content of the article is correct. Sarah Lawrence College is located in the city of Yonkers and the Bronxville Postal District. It's not at all uncommon for an address to be in a Postal District that doesn't share its name. The determining factor is what city a school pays taxes in, and Sarah Lawrence pays taxes in Yonkers. If you'd like to test this theory, call 911 from campus and see whether it's the Bronxville or Yonkers police department that shows up.--djrobgordon 16:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, does anyone have a source confirming that Sarah Lawrence influenced that USPS to put it in the Bronxville Postal District for the purpose of PR? It's fine to note that the college is in the Postal District, but without a source I don't think we should speculate as to how that came about. --djrobgordon 21:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Nobody is claiming that the college influenced the USPS in any way. Being in the 10708 section of Yonkers means one can choose to address one's mail as either Yonkers or Bronxville.  However, it is disingenuous to claim to be in Bronxville when one is within the city boundaries of Yonkers.  --Nelson Ricardo 21:42, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * My only problem with the former wording is that it speculated as to the motives of the college. I share the opinion that the choice of address is a PR move, but without a source it's nothing more than an opinion, and therefore not NPOV. --djrobgordon 22:25, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Sarah Lawrence
Sarah Lawrence is most certainly not in Bronxville, and the first paragraph of the article should be revised to reflect that simple fact. (We're now in the position of having both the Bronxville and Yonkers Wikipedia articles making the claim that they are the home of Sarah Lawrence College, which is absurd.)

Although people who get involved in this issue seldom resort to facts, I'm going to do just that. First, take a look at the campus map from the Sarah Lawrence website, which I found at http://www.slc.edu/data/386/link/1299/SLC_CampusMapWeb.pdf. Then, take a look at the map viewer on the website of the Westchester County Geographic Information Systems (Yonkers and Bronxville are both in Westchester County) at http://giswww.westchestergov.com/westchester/emap/viewer.htm and navigate to the area under discussion. (To save time, you can look at http://www.WebFeats.com/SarahLawrence-Yonkers.gif, where I've copied the relevant area of the map.) Even a cursory comparison of the maps reveals that the entire campus is within the city limits of Yonkers (the area in gray), and that not one square inch of the campus crosses the Bronx River into Bronxville (one of the areas in white).

It's obvious to me that the article should be corrected, but I won't do that until I hear what others have to say. HMishkoff 21:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Mm, yeah, but the Sarah Lawrence post office address is in Bronxville, and the school claims to be there. DivineAna 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The Bronxville postal address covers a larger area than the actual Village of Bronxville. If this article about the area covered by the postal addresses (that is, every place with a Bronxville address) then Sarah Lawrence should be included.  However, this article is about the Village, the political entity.  A clearly defined area that Sarah Lawrence is not in.
 * Not sure where you get support for the school claiming to be there. From Sarah Lawrence College's own web site: "The College is located in southern Westchester County, bordering the communities of Yonkers and Bronxville, NY"
 * Seems to me the article is fine as is. It mentions the college a couple of times and is clear about what its relationship is to Bronxville. -- Sean Martin 20:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Reference Removed?
Someone revised a recent change I made that clarified the location of Sarah Lawrence College. While I'm not crazy about the edit (and don't understand why it was made), I let it stand -- but I did restore the reference that was removed with the edit. I've learned that this is a strangely contentious issue, and I had hoped to avoid an edit war by providing a reference to the official Bronxville website, which unequivocally states that SLC is in Yonkers. If someone still has a problem with the reference, I'm hoping that we can discuss it before you remove it again. Thanks! HMishkoff 20:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Reference Removed -- Again???
Someone removed my reference again, and I don't understand why, so I restored it again. I hate to keep restoring something that someone else keeps deleting, but I'll continue to do it until I get some kind of explanation. I just can't imagine why anyone would object to the inclusion of a reference, but I'm looking forward to hearing the explanation. HMishkoff 05:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep fighting the good fight. --Djrobgordon 19:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not I, if that's the implication. Hilighter555 01:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There was no such implication on my part. HMishkoff 06:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I've restored the reference again, Trxr4kds removed it yesterday, saying that it was "redundant." In a sense, of course, all references are redundant, in that they discuss and/or restate the point being referenced. But without references, contentious points are unsourced – and since this is a surprisingly contentious issue, it has a strong need for a reference. HMishkoff 13:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Citations missing tag
I added a tag because the majority of assertions in the article are missing citations. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 13:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is this even mentioned in this article?
"Despite its Bronxville mailing address,Sarah Lawrence College is located in the Lawrence Park West section of Yonkers."

What relevance does this have, or value does it add in an article on Bronxville?Paul (talk) 00:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I would guess that it's to help slow down the number of times a claim is made in this article that SLC is in Bronxville. HMishkoff (talk) 00:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

"several notable institutions"?
The article says that the Bronxville zip code extends past the borders of Bronxville to encompass "several notable institutions such as Sarah Lawrence College." I'm curious: Are there really any notable institutions other than SLC that are covered by the Bronxville zip code but that are outside the borders of Bronxville? If so, what are they? HMishkoff (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Im not sure what is meant by 'institution', but the zip code covers places like Northridge Stables and Riding Center on California Road (Eastchester). Also, Sarah Lawrence maintains student housing in the Avalon complex next to the Bronxville RR station and a house on the Concordia Campus as well.--R.T.Gellar (talk) 02:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, Siwanoy Country Club uses Bronxvilles 10708 zip code but is entirely outside of the Bronxville village borders. It is in the town of Eastchester.--R.T.Gellar (talk) 21:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Zip-Code section
I read this page the other day (before the bulk of this section was removed) found it to be informative and helpful to the article. Any problem with restoring it? . . . and also the 'history' section while we're at it? (I'm not sure why there ISN'T one already) --R.T.Gellar (talk) 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The postal code section is still part of the article. (See Bronxville, New York.) The additional material that was deleted was essentially nonencyclopedic -- long anecdotal quotations from newspaper articles, about a fairly trivial topic. If this were a local historical society's book about the community, that material would have a place, but this is an encyclopedia. --Orlady (talk) 03:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I disagree - there is a historical context which show this to be more than just a trivial topic. The newspaper quotations arent anecedotal by any means. They are informative and provide a much needed 'expert testimony' ((versus opinionated (ie:biased) testimony)) to s-p-e-l-l out the facts. I think i will work with the data and improve it for inclusion.--R.T.Gellar (talk) 21:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Surgical prodigy?
If Dr. Macaulay was really born in 2005, then not only was he one of the first to use hip resurfacing in the US, he must have been one of the youngest surgeons to perform that particular operation, don't you think? :) HMishkoff (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Popular culture
In the section of Bronxville in the TV or pop culture, a scene from the 'Blue Bloods' series where the Police Chief character, Tom Sellic, meets an Irish american criminal and who had defected to Canada in a 'church' was shot in Bronxville. The interior and exterior scenes shot at the 'church in Canada' were shot at the Dutch Reformed Church on Pondfield Road. In the background of the exterior shots, the village library and town hall could also be seen. (72.55.116.126 (talk) 14:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC))
 * Is there a source that could be cited to verify this? --Orlady (talk) 16:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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St. Joseph's School
This section is unusually detailed and disproportionately long given the school’s relevant prominence v other educational and other institutions in the village. I am reluctant to prune it myself via edits but surely this could be condensed to a tenth of the existing length? The student body is minuscule and (no offense intended) it’s not very notable within or outside of the community, or at least not enough to justify its current level of detail here.2600:1017:B82F:8BA8:35D6:BF44:2794:BF93 (talk) 23:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, it appears the text regarding the school was coped verbatim from Church of St. Joseph (Bronxville, New York). It should be pared down. I'll see to that.  Ergo Sum  01:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

"White man" plaque / "Sundown Towns"
A couple of related questions/comments:

I deleted the picture of a long-gone NY-state-placed historical marker that referenced this being the place where surrounding lands were "deeded to the white man"; hope no one objects. Considering that the plaque hasn't been here for years and was removed from the village because of the weirdly offensive phrasing, it seems strange to make this an image on the village's page (though I would understand its presence on a controversies section in a NY State Historical Plaques page or someplace similar). I originally mentioned this in the talk page but when no one replied I figured I might as well take matters into my own hands.

Separately, I'm a little confused by the prominence of the Sundown Towns/antisemitism investigation quote--doesn't bother me to note this historical analysis from 1959 (though I'd question why it merits a pull quote today), except that it having been quoted from a book with Sundown in the title rather than the original publication seems to have resulted in Bronxville being automatically placed on a "suspected sundown towns in NY" page about racially discriminatory policing. As a resident I obviously have an interest that this be corrected, but this is an algorithmic oddity that's not really substantively defensible IMO. Anyone have a clue how to handle?

108.54.207.195 (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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