Talk:Brooke Henderson

Numbers in section headings
User Tewapack wants to use numbers in section headings, violating MOS:HEADINGS. Proposed examples are "Professional wins (6)" or "LPGA Tour wins (1)". It is not only unconventional to use numbers in subheadings (other examples within Wikipedia?) but potentially will be confusing to casual users of the article. The numbers do not agree with content contained within subsections. If important, text could be added.

Per WP:BRD, I'm reverting and placing the examples here for other editors to review/comment. Because there is no consensus per WP:CONSENSUS, the content/subheadings in question should not be reinstated to the article. Also, please be aware of WP:3RR. --Zefr (talk) 21:16, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * There is nothing in MOS:HEADINGS that prevents the numbers in section headings as used in this article. This is fairly standard in golfer articles, e.g. Lydia Ko, Inbee Park, Jordan Spieth. The numbers agree with the number of wins in each section. Tewapack (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, I don't care for it, but the precedent applications for other golfers 'trump' my disagreement. --Zefr (talk) 22:20, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Dynamic OWGR for current year is relevant
It's logical that a previous year ranking of the OWGR is dated to the last day of that year, but there is no reason to reject the current year ranking for information having broad interest. The source is secondary, independent and official, it is dynamic according to current performance, and is a statistic of interest to the public and other parties, such as the LPGA, competitors, and marketers. opines it will not be updated in the current year, and perhaps this applies to other golfer articles. The encyclopedia faces this potential timeline issue across thousands of articles, but does not discourage maintenance of dynamic information per WP:POINT. As long as the source is secondary and remains the official ranking system, there is no objective reason it cannot have the within-year ranking displayed. Changing back the edit and asking that this objective issue is not used for POV-based warring. --Zefr (talk) 13:48, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Birdies in LPGA summary table
User:Zefr added birdies to the article's "LPGA Tour career summary" table, arguing that it is "an official LPGA stat associated with scoring performance". There are many official LPGA stats that could be added to this or any LPGA players table (see ). The question is - what is the value of adding any stat to a table that already takes up lots of column width. The stats already listed are commonly used in these types of tables and are a better measure of performance than cherry-picking a stat that she's ranked high in for a couple of years. If her performance is really noteworthy than it is better highlighted in the text of the article. Per WP:BRD, I'm reverting until discussion is finished. Tewapack (talk) 19:06, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Her birdie production is not just an isolated "cherry-picked" stat, but among all stats, defines two aspects of overall performance: 1) birdies account for her rapid improvement in scoring average and rise among the top money earners over 2015-17, and 2) without such birdie production, she would be a second tier player because her other performance stats for 2016-17 are mainly average, giving attention to how improvement of stats in other skills predicts more consistent and higher future finishes. If a column needs to be removed (column width is actually fine on my cell phone), there's little value to showing 3rd place finishes, while birdie production has more significance to Henderson's current and future performance. In this article, we're providing a table of LPGA tour stats to reflect performance over a short meteoric career, indicating past, current, and forecast of future success. The birdie list provides an answer to her performance to date. There is no commentary offered by secondary sources on her birdie production, but by providing a list of relevant stats, we help inform encyclopedia users that birdie production is a key performance indicator. --Zefr (talk) 17:39, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Professional wins - 17 or 19?
Under the Professional wins category, 17 wins are detailed: 12 on the LPGA Tour, one on the Symetra (formerly Epson) Tour, and 4 under "Other" for which we had no sources and only three were listed until this edit today.

The LPGA bio here under both Professional and Amateur Highlights confirms the 2015 professional win and the 4 other pro wins while she was an amateur from 2012-14. Posting here for confirmation by and/or others. Zefr (talk) 18:39, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Also: PGA Women's Championship of Canada at FireRock, Ontario, July 2014, as an amateur. Zefr (talk) 19:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * or 19? Added second SunCoast win Tewapack (talk) 19:18, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Clearly two events in 2014. Tewapack (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 19, further edited here, with thanks for the prompt input. Zefr (talk)