Talk:Brooke Hogan/Archive 1

Birthday
Would the editor that changes May 2 to May 5 kindly cite a source? IMDb and TV.com says May 2. Gimmetrow 03:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

My source is the episode that the Hogams appeared on Jay Leno. They Said that Brooke's 18th birthday was on Friday, May 5th not Tuesday, May 2. Sorry for not putting this. If I'm wrong, that's fine. MgHoneyBee 15:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there any way to verify this one way or the other? I don't consider TV.com reliable, but is there any reason not to accept IMDb as a source here? I was unable to find a source for May 5 I considered reliable, but if there is one this could be listed as "May 2 or May 5 depending on source". Gimmetrow 00:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * IMDB is not a reputable source for anything at all. Not birth dates either. THey very often get them wrong and there is little reason to assume this time is different. TV.com and Ask.Men are also trivia sites (TV.com, like the IMDB, is fan-submitted) and thus also not reliable. Obviously, the Hogans' own words (on Leno) trump any silly internet trivia sites. Mad Jack 22:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yup, VH1, which is something that Hogan was personally involved in, says May 5. Mad Jack 22:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I wish you would have left in the other references. Someone will come by and change it to May 2 - it's already happened despite the footnotes for both dates that I dug up and put in. Readers should probably have some explanation of the discrepancies. Gimmetrow 23:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Image
An editor changed the lead image to a screencap from a video. In my understanding (I could be wrong), such a screencap would only be fair use to illustrate the video, not the performer. Therefore I reverted to the former promotional image which appears to be a more straightforward fair use. Gimmetrow 04:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Page?
Question:

If all the babies or children of Famous people are redirected to their parents, why isn't this one? I know she has a new album out but it hasn't even done anything yet! When the album reaches gold or whatever, then she deserves a page but I don't believe she should have had a page before just for appearing on a reality show with her father.I still don't believe her brother deserves a page because he hasn't done anything to deserve a page. Just my opinion.MgHoneyBee 01:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Children of famous people are redirected to their parents unless they are notable in their own right. This person seems notable on her own, based on the fan base (WP:BIO) and arguably WP:MUSIC. You may have a case with the brother. Gimmetrow 23:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

her fan base? what fan base? in a country of 300,000,000 people, only 120,000 people bought her second album and her first album couldn't even get released by a record label. that hardly qualifies as a "fan base". .03% (that's point zero three, not three) of the population bought her album. hell, i could sell that many records, and i can't sing or dance. oops. neither can she. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.143.189 (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Please change the Early life section since Brooke moved in her freshman year school and joined (though she only stayed at the school for the first half of freshman year due to bullying), She sang  joined the cheerleading squad of St. Petersburg military academy, Admiral Farragut. Hogan eventually had to begin homeschooling because her music career required her to tour, and she graduated from high school at the age of sixteen.Shurebusiness (talk) 18:28, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Fan sites
Some links were added recently to fansites under construction. Per WP:EL, an article may list one major fansite in external links. Is there one major or official fansite for this person? Or does the myspace music site function as one? Gimmetrow 04:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I've removed a fansite link claimed to be "official", since I couldn't find any indication it was official either on the site itself or on the other, clearly official, sites ( http://www.myspace.com/brookehoganmusic and http://www.brookehoganSmusic.com - a couple other domains are reserved but have no page at present). Over time there have been a few different links given for fansites. The two I recall are: Neither are linked from either of the official sites. If we list only one, it's not clear either has precedence. We could list both at the end of the external links. Or we could consider them spam and remove them entirely. (Note that there is an official fan club.) What should we do with them? Gimmetrow 00:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * http://www.brooke-h.com (opened July 2006)
 * http://www.brookehogan.org (opened Sept 2006)

Trivia, and specifically the name the parents did not choose?

 * Hulk Hogan revealed in a 1999 interview with OK! magazine that before he and his wife settled on the name Brooke, their daughter was going to be named "Ludmela".

Moving this sentence to talk page. Google searches only find this info on wiki mirrors, and other trivia sites that almost certainly copied it from here. This has been in the text for a while, but I wonder if it's really true - the archives for the U.K. edition of OK! have zero hits for Brooke Hogan or Hulk Hogan, and the U.S. edition didn't seem to exist in 1999. Even if this trivia is true, I would question whether the name not chosen for a person is notable. Now that all important pieces of trivia are worked into the article, I've removed the trivia section. Gimmetrow 03:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ludmela
Linda Hogan made mention of this in a 2006 episode of Hogan Knows Best that Ludmela was the first choice of Brooke's name but that they decided against it after much debate. I believe Hulk referred to Ludmela as an unrelated parenting figure he had looked up to and wanted to use the name.Antiscian 00:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Credited as VS. AKA
The reason why I had to minor edit this article is because "Credited As" sounds better than AKA in the young Hogan's case, since Brooke Bollea is actually credited about 99.7% of the time as Brooke Hogan. Sometimes, you've got to use the "Credited As" clause in Celebrity articles. &mdash; Mark Kim (Reply/Start Talk) 04:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Isn't she credited as "Brooke?" I know I've heard people introduce her as Brooke Hogan, but it seems to me it just says Brooke on everything official.Gopherbassist 19:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Last Name/Opening sentences
In the opening sentences there is a part that says:

"...the oldest child of professional wrestler Hulk Hogan (Terrence Gene “Terry” Bollea) and his wife Linda Bollea, and older sister of Nick Hogan."

As a matter of consistency, shouldn't Nick Hogan be Nick Bollea? Josborne2382 20:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Deal

 * [comments removed]

To Wikipedia I deeply apologize and sincerely regret these comments if indeed they are against your policy.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Celebrity-Benji 14:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

What do you want to be referrenced? Wardenusa 06:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The myspace account is dead. -Mr. Tachyon

Who is Chris Glavaris? I cannot find any info on the person anywhere, is he famous?

Hogan's Knows Best as Reliable Source
The "Personal Life" section makes claims about her dating life based upon the TV show "Hogan Knows Best." Is a "reality show" really an acceptable source, especially one that seems so staged?Seantrinityohara (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Maxim Cover Girl
The Maxim Cover Model for July 2008 is Marissa Miller, not Brooke Hogan. dool325 (talk) 20:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

sales
I just want to say tha the album debuted and peaked at #28 selling 29,000 copies it fell off the charts 4 weeks later. So it couldn't possibly be at 127,000 in sales. I can't find anything on that link that says that she has sold 127,000 copies so could someone show me where you got that information from or where at in that link it says she has sold 127,000. The very stuffed Seth71 (talk) 23:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at #178 on the page, cumulative sales 126907. Gimmetrow 00:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

ok, but I still don't think that's right. Like I said how is it possible that an album that sold 29,000 its first week then fall off the charts 4 week later sell 127,000 copies. Seth71 (talk) 02:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOvKdKfKSeA&feature=related playboy covergirl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.139.197 (talk) 21:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Image
I think someone could put up an image of Brooke Hogan, just a thought though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lala111 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Height
How tall is she?

she is 5ft 10 - mentioned on the hogan knows best show where hogan is playing Zues in the film little hercules

no, in that episode she says "i'm almost 6 feet. i'm 5'11" and that guy she's talking to is 5'7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.140.20 (talk) 09:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Added Image
I hope the image I added is okay for right now. It's a personal picture from Brooke's official Myspace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omgitsdale (talk • contribs) 16:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

"Undiscovered" Sales
Requesting an edit please for sales of the "Undiscovered" CD. Most recent date I could find was from April 2007 when it had sold over 126,000 copies. Currently the Wikipedia entry indicates 60,000 copies. Source is http://indiehq.com/2007/04/18/independent-sales-chart-4-18-07/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.42.208 (talk) 17:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

what's the difference? the album was and is a flop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.143.189 (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

hair
does anyone know how much money the bollea family spends on bleach and hair dye every year? is it worked into the budget of their various projects? cuz ain't a single one of them that's a natural blonde. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellcraft11 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Discography Page
Look, I know she isn't super famous, but she has had 2 albums, a mixtape, an unreleased debut and 7 (2 notable) singles. I made a page and someone screwed up what I did. She needs it by now with 5 years in the business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.85.144 (talk) 20:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicity
If Hulk Hogan is categorized as an Italian-American, how come Brooke isn't? Her last name (Bollea) is italian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.196.60 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * We need a source that says that Brooke is Italian-American. --ElKevbo 15:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Note that WP:BLP only says to immediately remove negative material that is unsourced. Unless you think "Italian-American" is some sort of ethnic slur, I don't really understand the concern. AFAIK, the father is verifiably Italian-American. Gimmetrow 18:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * ElKevbo is quite right, we need a source that calls Brooke herself Italian or Italian-American. Just because her father is categorized as Italian-American (and he isn't of fully Italian ancestry himself, btw - and Brooke's mother isn't Italian at all) it doesn't mean his daughter and all the descendants from that point on would be as well. If there is, however, a reliable source that actually calls Brooke Italian-American, she should be under that cat with the source cited, etc. Mad Jack 00:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There are people in the Italian-American category that aren't of full or even half Italian extraction. Also, her last name Bollea is recognizably Italian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.9.115.6  (talk • contribs) 23:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have not found a source saying that Bollea is an Italian name nor does it sound like one. In fact, this site says the origin is English http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/bollea-family-crest.htm 77.105.24.8 (talk) 09:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Two major points: 1) Being Italian-American is not a negative statement, therefore the categorization does not need to be removed immediately, 2) the categorization was in fact removed over a week ago without objection. Why bring it up after that, Mad Jack? Gimmetrow 00:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

"Also, her last name Bollea is recognizably Italian" - LOL - so what? We don't list people because their last names sound Italian. The people in Italian-Americans should have been described as Italian-American in reliable sources. Wiki editors can't make that call. As for bringing it up, I just replied to the discussion, and I see the cat has now been restored, so I'll remove it again because I haven't seen anything that called her Italian yet. Mad Jack 03:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * "The people in Italian-Americans should have been described as Italian-American in reliable sources" what sources? Italian americans don't say everytime "I'm italian"...

Was she born in Italy? No, so she is not an Italian American. She is an American with Italian descent.
 * I completely agree. If someone is to be called Italian-American, that person needs to be of Italian origin (i.e., born and at least to some degree raised in Italy) but who has emigrated to USA.
 * Compare this with Afro-Americans who sometimes incorrectly are referred to as "African-Americans". Of course, you need to be of African origin (i.e., born and at least to some degree raised in Africa) in order to be called "African-American". Thus, e.g. Arnold Vosloo is African-American since he was born and raised in South Africa, but Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is Afro-American since he was born and raised in USA. The fact that Vosloo isn't black doesn't change his ethnicity classified as African-American, just like the fact that Lena Olin's brown eyes don't change the fact she's a Swedish-American.

I disagree, obvious saxon-vik. Celt-Saxon, Slav and Germanic are euro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.42.105 (talk) 03:22, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 (talk) 20:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC))

at what point are we going to begin referring to people who live in the usa as just plain old americans regardless of where they were born or what color they are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellcraft11 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 12 July 2008

Boyfriend and comments from dad
How come there is no mention of this? The recorded convo was about her and didn't she write a poem about the situation or something? Going to check the refs on his page to see what's appropriate. 174.92.135.167 (talk) 06:42, 12 January 2016 (UTC)