Talk:Brothel creeper

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... and what do they look like? Omassey 15:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Deletion
I have deleted the remark about brothel creepers being considered "retro nostalgic". The truth is many designers including Vivienne Westwood, and Keanan Duffty (more can be found on the George Cox site) use Creepers. In fact the first pair of trainers/sneakers, complete with three tongues, shown on a runway (Vivienne Westwood Witches Collection, and designed by Patrick Cox) were based on the George Cox (no relation) Brothel Creepers.


 * That still doesn't mean retro nostalgic isn't an accurate description. A revival of something that was popular in the 50s and again at the end of the 70s is retro and is nostalgic. Whether it can be called "retro nostalgic" is surely a matter of taste. Nuttyskin (talk) 09:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Origin of Name
I'd love to see a reference to where the name came from. Naysie 03:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, me, too. It certainly wasn't a phrase to be heard in the post-WWII United States. Let's get some clarity. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Why does the article not explain the origin of the "brothel" part of the name? Peteinterpol (talk) 21:24, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Image.
I don't think that image is a good representation of what brothel creepers look like at all. Could someone add an image of what a real pair of creepers look like or remove that one? Sion 06:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

New Creeper Sneakers
Shouldn't it be noted that both Vision and TUK are manufacturing creeper-like sneakers? If we are to talk about trademarks manufacturing this new kind of shoe, we should mention them all, specially since, if I'm not wrong, the TUK entry talks about it. (JAWs)

Description of shoe in first part of article
"soldiers based in the deserts in North Africa wore suede boots with hardwearing crepe soles because of the climate and environment." That would seem to describe Desert Boots, or Chukka Boots, and not the shoes that I think of when I think of creepers. If the current creepers evolved from the military-issue desert boot, that should be explained. Furthermore, the statement, "They were invented in 1949 by George Cox and marketed under the Hamilton name" seems to contradict the previous statement, that they were based on the desert boot. J. Nachlin (talk) 19:33, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Harry Hill?
He's a pretty famous wearer of them in the UK. Maybe a short bit about him? I don't mind writing it as long as someone gives me the go ahead. Zolstijers, innit brah!? 12:46, 24 April 2012 (GMT)

Origin of name
This is text that was on the article, I have just removed it and am placing it here. It is undated and with no editor's name, but raises another point about the origin of the name. Libby norman (talk) 23:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

"The Windsor Style by Suzy Menkes (Publishing Date:1988) The Windsor Style on page 102 refers to the Prince of Wales (Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor) as visiting New York in 1924 wearing a pair of tan suede "Brothel Creepers": "The Prince had scandalized society by arriving in New York in 1924 wearing tan suede brothel creepers with a wide-lapelled  double-breasted light grey suit." The Duke of Windsor is quoted as saying regarding this incident: "I noticed that my American friends were looking down at my feet with some embarrassment," he says, "Finally someone explained that the wearing of these shoes in America was regarded as effeminate, to say the least of it."  There was no photo or illustration of the brothel creepers that the Duke of Windsor is here referring to, so there would be no way to know if the shoe he is referring to the same style of shoe as mentioned in this article. It does perhaps indicate that the term " brothel creeper" could have been in use in the 1920s, which is quite a bit earlier than the post WWII reference in this article."

"Grunge Culture" ?
A resurgence in popularity of grunge culture in 2011 -- I know I may have been under a rock for a few years, but I can't remember a resurgence of the 90s Seattle scene in either music or subcultural fashion in 2011.

And even if there had been, what would that have to do with Brothel Creepers? Nirvana, Mudhoney and Pearl Jam fans never wore them, at least in my recollection! Nuttyskin (talk) 09:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)