Talk:Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre

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"the brotherhood also administers the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem, such as metropolitans, ..."
What does this mean? The brotherhood administers metropolitans etc? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

No source for main claims, lots of nonsense & wishful thinking
The article states that "St Hilarion introduced monasticism in Palestine, erected the first monastery, ordered and regulated monastic life, and formed the Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre."

It's highly dubious: If no source is produced, much of the article deserves to be scrapped. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 09:33, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * a) Does Jerome say any of that? What other source did you discover?
 * b) The poor man fled the world. Unless you offer a source, it's pure nonsense / wishful thinking, meant to link the Brotherhood to the earliest possible date & holy character.
 * c) Chariton the Confessor is said to have done similar things, probably before Hilarion.


 * I noticed the same problem with this page and did a dive through Google Scholar to check academic sources against the suspicious unsourced claims throughout the page. As it turns out, the information on the page is indeed almost entirely wrong or misleading. The 'Brotherhood' is functionally identical to the Orthodox Patriarchate itself; the Patriarch is the head of the 'Brotherhood' and the clergy under him its 'brothers'. The notion of the 'Brotherhood' is an administrative structure that was adopted by the Patriarchate in the wake of the Ottoman conquest in 1517 (cf. Papastathis 'Colonialism and Religious Power Politics' (2014)) due to the Patriarchate's unique focus on overseeing Jerusalem's churches rather than pastoral care, meaning all of the claims about the 'Brotherhood' existing as some kind of organization in the Middle Ages and Antiquity are false. As you said, virtually all of this page should be scrapped or rewritten. 65.175.175.141 (talk) 22:28, 16 September 2020 (UTC)