Talk:Brown pelican/Archive 1

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The Brown pelican is listed as federally endangered in the U.S. except along the Atlantic coast and Alabama. The California population is still considered endangered, though delisting is imminent. The Caribbean population has not recovered as well, and has been neglected.


 * However, it's common on the Atlantic coast, common in the Caribbean (I saw them everywhere in Tobago) and afaik common throughout the rest of its Central and South American range.
 * Jimfbleak.talk. 18:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking for some information
We were just having a conversation here, and were wondering about one particular aspect of the brown pelican that would be good to include in the article. Since the pelicans dive for fish, they often end up with a beak full of water. How do they expell this salty mouthful?


 * from the sides of the bill, as with other pelicans, jimfbleak 06:45, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Extinct?
Why exactly is there a cross next to the latin name? The conservation status says "least concern". --Mithcoriel 09:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Are we sure range extends down to Peru and Chile?
It says in the article that the brown pelican lives "lives strictly on coasts from Washington and Virginia south to northern Chile and the mouth of the Amazon River." However, if you look at the article on the Peruvian pelican (Pelecanus thagus) it says "it used to be considered a subspecies of the Brown Pelican (Pelecanus occidentalis)." Do these two species really overlap, or is the article on the brown pelican outdated and should mention a range that stops north of Peru?

I normally would not have noticed the discrepancy, but I happen to have visited the Peruvian coast quite recently and did not see a single brown pelican—only the large Peruvian ones, exactly like the picture in the Peruvian pelican article. --Rcgy (talk) 02:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I know this is an old question, but I'll reply anyway to avoid further confusion. There is a level of overlap in non-breeding range, but not in their breeding range. Unfortunately, many sources still use old info (from before the Peruvian split) and they should therefore be used with care. I have now corrected the "problem regions" (Peru+Chile) using up-to-date refs. RN1970 (talk) 12:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Comments
First read-thorugh
 * I made these changes, please check
 * They are awesome. Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * No parasite section or anything on moult/molt
 * Did not find anything on brood parasite. Added molt section. Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * All ext links work, but overlinking in text, run script
 * Does it look better now? Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't put Linnaeus in the lead, we don't normally, and the lead is a bit too detailed for my tastes anyway
 * Removed Linnaeus from lead, and condensed the lead.
 * Condensed the lead a bit more. Hope it looks better (yeah, on looking back, the lead was really detailed which had to be fixed). Adityavagarwal (talk) 11:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Check that "it" and "they" always have the intended subject.
 * Does it look better now? Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * You say From 1968 to 1980, the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries’ reintroduction program re-established the brown pelican in the United States, I don't think that's what you mean, implies it was extinct in the US
 * Tweaked. Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Anything on conservation efforts and population changes outside the US
 * Added a bit (din't find a lot about outside the US). Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The article title shouldn't appear in image captions
 * Did not know that. Thanks for the new information. Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Check grey/gray colour/color for consistency.
 * Tweaked. (gray/color) Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Book references need page numbers, and should have a link unless it goes to relevant text. See, for example, refs 22, 23 and 24 at least which don't give the pages and link to contentless pages
 * Added page numbers and links (for a few books, only preview was shown, so I was not able to link to the relevant pages but they all have page numbers now). Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll have another look during the week Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:12, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Jim Sure! Have a great weekend. Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)