Talk:Brownsville, Texas/Archive 1

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Notable people
How is having a serial killer "notable," User:Sbmeirow? So, what if he was born in Brownsville? This is absurd, I think we need to make a fine distinction between famous and infamous. A reasonable person does not aspire to become a serial killer. Let's not forget that Efren Saldivar lived and worked at California if anything he should be properly placed under the Notable residents section in North Hollywood, Los Angeles. We need to be consistent, here, we should also amend the Notable alumni section at Harvard University to include Ted Kaczynski for his contributions of sending explosives through the US Mail. With that said, I motion to delete Efren Saldivar from the Notable People section. --F15 sanitizing eagle (talk) 21:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * All I did was sort the existing people in this section and add instructions, and possibly deleted one or more that didn't appear to have citation (can't remember). I didn't add any.  I add these instructions to help slow down people adding non-notable people.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  21:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * If the person is located at a local prison, I personally don't feel they live in the city, instead they are being housed in a government prison and not a citizen walking the streets, but some people feel otherwise. I've noticed the BTK killer Dennis Rader from Wichita has been included in every city under the sun too.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  21:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I've touched every city article in Kansas, and have done a lot of detailed cleanup on those city articles. I've started doing quick cleanup of random cities across the USA, and I'll fix obvious higher-level layout problems, like: reordering sections per US CITY layout guideline, moving photos, fix bad whitespace layout issues, adding / removing obvious things that are common to a lot of city articles, sometimes I'll cleanup sectons because I get on a roll but not always.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  21:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
This page has been extensively vandalized. e.g. "The median income for a household in the city was $900, and the median income for a family was $1000. Males had a median income of $5.00 versus $100,000,000 for females."

but I don't know the correct figures to fix it. 71.249.228.149 01:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

"a beautiful downtown,"

Is that POV? --WikiFan04 14:22, 19 Mar 2005 (CST) 66.68.212.149 02:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

It would have to be, or a lie. --201.128.160.172 03:13, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Those Interesting Facts are actually pretty uninteresting.

66.68.212.149 02:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Beautiful downtown? That's funny. haha

Actually, to many people our downtown is beautiful (yes, I know, shocking). Consider that our downtown experience is far different from many northern American downtown experiences. Ours features lots of historical buildings whereas others feature, well, just brick-and-mortar store chains. --Mcamargo 22:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
Holford 10:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Removed extensive section about conduct of city elections. There is no indication that this procedure is unique to Brownsville and therefore notable or encyclopedic.
 * Removed Pre-Brownsville/Brownsville History subcategories.
 * Removed lots of useless city government information and rearranged the rest.
 * Removed the the dental hygene "college" and the "college" of cosmetology from under the Universities and Colleges heading.
 * Moved famous people to trivia and dropped Shelbie Bruce, who has been in two episodes of TV, did one bit part voiceover, and has appeared in one recent film.
 * The usual grammar, redundancy, POV, and similar issues.

I removed Our Lady of Sorrows School from the list of private schools. Our Lady of Sorrows is located in McAllen NOT Brownsville. --69.151.173.141 (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Ariel

Language proficiency in Brownsville
I have noticed that editors to the Brownsville article have occasionally noted the fact that Brownsville residents speak predominently Spanish. I know the census gathers data on what language is used at home does anyone know where these figures are listed, if they are so that a number acan be applied and not just a statement that is not a NPOV? user:Jaedza

Nacho Libre
I've noticed that lots of people have been replacing names with "Nacho Libre." I really don't think that someone by the name of "Nacho Libre" served as the mayor, or the city's commisioner. It's just kind of sad to see people stoop that low, really, especially since their IP addresses are tracked.--Mcamargo 15:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Fort Brown/Fort Texas
Note: Fort Brown was originally named Fort Texas, but was renamed after the siege. The history section should reflect this. I plan on updating the history section soon so it is a paragraph style and not bullets. 25or6to4 09:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

We did have a mayor nicknamed "Nacho". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.76.72 (talk) 05:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Rio Grande Rapid Transit
The Rio Grande Rapid Transit section has been fact flagged. If proper citations are not added within 7 days, it will be removed and kept off until proper cites are included. 25or6to4 (talk) 00:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Demographics
84% white 91% hispanic latino? am i missing something here. Explanation: You are confused between race and ethnicity. There are only three basic races in the world which consists of Anglo, African, and Mongoloid. Ethnicities are subgroups of each race. It is possible to categorize oneself as of African or Anglo origin, but also Hispanic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.69.71 (talk) 04:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Economy
What is the economy of Brownsville like? What are the major businesses, etc.? There is no mention of it. Regards, — mattisse (Talk) 00:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Coordinate error
The coordinates need the following fixes:
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98.203.124.24 (talk) 07:07, 21 January 2010 (UTC) the latitude is 25.9 degrees north check bing map or google map; this is way off that latitude shown on the page would be farther south in mexico


 * The coordinates in the article (25-55-49N) are the same as 25.9 degrees. 25or6to4 (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Rio Grande
Isn't Brownsville on the Rio Grande? If so (e.g., as a map-check indicates and as an article on the Old Bridge says), then why isn't it mentioned? Kdammers (talk) 02:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

The article says its on the Southern bank, when it is actually on the Northern bank of the Rio Grande. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.65.14.134 (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Art and culture
I think it's safe to say "Brownsville is largely regarded as one of the cultural cornerstones of the first world" won't be credibly cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonypbach (talk • contribs) 04:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Brownsville received "theoretical maximum worst score", problems with wording and citations
Quoting a section from the article: "Brownsville received the theoretical maximum worst score (72) for its level of human influence on the environment. This is the place where the maximum was observed. It ranked higher than the most populous metropolitan cities.", this is infusing controversy into a article that does not involve any topic of controversy, possibly for the sake of some agenda, or for trolling. The citation link for the quoted text leads to what seems to be at best a departmental level study at Columbia University, authored by no more than six researchers, and at worst might simply be a master's thesis or dissertation. The paper was setup in a generally typical fashion for an academic paper, in fact a wholly unremarkable fashion for an academic paper and to base even this claim on this study is a stretch at best. Personally I wouldn't base such claims unless I had a more credible source to base it on, I know someone might actually say "it's Columbus University" but from what I can tell its just another academic paper, one that is poorly written at that, and this sort of stuff is all over the place with all the activists out there in the world. Credible reports usually get nearly everyone in the field on board, not just a third of the civil engineering department at Columbia University. We're writing an encyclopedia here. While some people may disagree with me, I feel its necessary to hold to a higher standard of what sources we use.

1stcontact2035 (talk) 01:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Climate; disambiguate
It says, " In addition, Brownsville's climate has often been recognized among the best pro-business climates in the United States...." Do they mean climate in the literal sense, as in a tropical or continental climate, or in a figurative sense, as in a political or socioeconomic climate?--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 11:18, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Timeline
What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 14:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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Maintenance
About several months ago, I added info regarding events, tourist attractions, bike/hike trials and other topics on here. I would really appreciate if there are locals from the area reading this to add on to this article and make it cohesive and detailed. This article needs to be expanded in certain areas (politics structure, economy) section. I know for a fact that the economy here is big with the steel industry, Port of Brownsville (ranking as the second nationally for value of exports and is the hub for business in South Texas) along with the introduction of SpaceX and the new high-tech industry arriving here. Wind turbines and other green resources are also making their way here. I would add all this information myself but I am currently devoted in the Brownsville (Texas) WikiVoyage article. I made a to-do list that may help those who want to contribute on the this article. May have missed essential topics. If there is something you want to add and it isn't on the to-do list, feel free to add it. Certainly would just make the article much better. Thanks. De88 (talk) 22:17, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Illegal alien
How many illegal aliens are expected to live within Brownsville? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.105.79.67 (talk) 06:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No idea. Not sure if that information is relevant for this article, though. Unless a reliable source shows that the number is extremely high and notable (such numbers are quite hard to gather anyways), it wouldn't make sense to put it here. From my understanding, there are a lot more "illegals" in Matamoros, since they deport hundreds of people per month there. And hundreds more stop there on their way to the U.S. MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 07:11, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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Matamoros/Mexico/border mention in lede
Hello. There is no mention of Matamoros, Mexico, and/or the U.S.-Mexico border in the intro paragraph. I think it should be there since this is a huge part of Brownsville's economy, history, and cultural identity. San Diego mentions Tijuana (it is a GA), so I think Brownsville should do the same with Matamoros. , since you've been updating the article, I'll leave it up to you to add it with the wording you see fit. Thanks and nice job! MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 18:48, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just went ahead and updated the article. I think the added information suffices the description of Brownsville's location on the border and other bits related to Matamoros. Westofzephyr (talk) 04:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)