Talk:BrowserChoice.eu

Web browser choice screen
I've created a similar article at Web browser choice screen. Also, it should be noted that all the links go through microsoft, and as such microsoft will have a copy of all the statistics.Smallman12q (talk) 02:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above mentioned article is about the same subject and thus should be merged into this article, I've added the appropriate merge tags to both articles. 78.33.26.66 (talk)
 * Obvious duplication/merge so done. --Rumping (talk) 11:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The following claim in this section is incorrect:

"The screen is presented only to Windows users whose default web browser is Internet Explorer."

I see the Web browser choice screen at http://www.browserchoice.eu/BrowserChoice/browserchoice_en.htm, when I browse there using Firefox 4.0.1 on my Mac.

Wikipedia's rule is "no original research" - that's original research. So what's the correct way to handle this situation? 86.133.61.201 (talk) 00:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You use common sense...something that appears to be heavily lacking....=PSmallman12q (talk) 00:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Alternate Browser
In this edit, User:Lineplus stated that "Other browsers are not "alternative browsers"!" However, this is not the case. The whole purpose of BrowserChoice was to comply with the EU to show that there are alternative browsers. Such as stated in these articles: Smallman12q (talk) 22:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/7294662/Microsoft-offers-Windows-users-a-browser-ballot-screen.html
 * http://www.dailytech.com/Browser+Charges+Against+Microsoft+Dropped+in+EU/article17149.htm
 * http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+and+Europe+Finally+Work+Out+Windows+7+Browser+Differences/article16439.htm
 * http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1594102/microsoft-starts-advertising-alternative-web-browsers
 * http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/what-your-web-browser-says-about-you-1931467.html

Uninstallable
Is it worth mentioning that the update which adds BrowserChoice to your computer is uninstallable after it has been installed? Certainly for less savvy users who choose to do nothing and stick with Internet Explorer, the damn thing hangs around on the desktop for ever more. Astronaut (talk) 12:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, people who want to keep IE will just pick IE in the list and the browser screen won't appear anymore. --Rafaelluik (talk) 20:12, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Three screenshots
There is a debate scattered over various locations about whether three screenshots are better than one. In essense, form one point of view the screenshots are similar and are non-free so only one is needed, versus the opinion that the screenshots are different (in terms of logos and descriptions) and are needed to illustrate the first/second-tier slider issue and to avoid repeating the alledged bias by Mirosoft in making the second-tier browsers almost invisible. --Rumping (talk) 10:14, 19 August 2010 (UTC) good compromise! looks good. good idea! mabdul 11:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 3 vs 1 is only one of the problems; apart from the minimal use clause, three images also fail the replaceability clause because the fact that the other browsers are accessed via the slider is perfectly explainable in text (which is of course free). Leading on from that, it follows that the images are not necessary to 'significantly improve' the reader's understanding of the article, and thus the necessity clause is also failed. Black Kite (t) (c) 10:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That is one of the opinions. But I personally think it is less important than illustrating with the first picture that there was no indication apart from the slider that there might be more than five browsers, and then showing with the second and third illustrations that there were more and what they were.  Without all three screenshots I believe many readers' understanding would be significantly weakened.--Rumping (talk) 10:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But this can clearly be explained in text - and it is. I fail to believe that a reader could not understand that a webpage can be moved across using a slider without being shown two images of it. Black Kite (t) (c) 10:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Some readers can indeed all the points including the 12 browsers just by reading and visiting the external link (which may not be there forever). But others will get the key points more quickly with three illustrations. --Rumping (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that the issue is complex enough for any reader that they couldn't understand the caption underneath the existing image. Furthermore, it's not central to the reader understanding the article itself (i.e. what the product is) - it's only a side issue of controversy. Black Kite (t) (c) 11:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:NFC is very clear here - "Note that it is the duty of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; those seeking to remove or delete it are not required to show that one cannot be created". Please do not re-insert the material until the issue is settled.  Thankyou. Black Kite (t) (c) 11:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not that I can undo your change as you have removed the images four times in 24 hours --Rumping (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * How about as a compromise we replace the first image with a moving gif of all three?--Rumping (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Er - I hadn't thought of that. I'd have to check, but I think that would solve the problem, yes. Black Kite (t) (c) 17:15, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Try now--Rumping (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've looked at this and I'm pretty sure it's fine. Well done for thinking of it! Black Kite (t) (c) 18:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Revision
Do we have any press release for that? I see the changes on the homepage, but we should cite something! mabdul 15:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good luck finding anything compatible with Wikipedia policy. The statement is verifiably accurate (just go to the site), but the sources do not fit policy. There are comments noting the additions at  and .  The screenshot (19 August 2010) was before the change. The change had happened by 26 August 2010.--Rumping (talk) 10:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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