Talk:Bruce Carroll

"The charts"
This sentence needs to specify what charts; I actually can't tell what it's measuring even by looking at the website. Was it number one on an internet radio station called radioactiveairplay.com? Number one on southern gospel radio? Some sales chart? According to whom? (Not Billboard, certainly...) Also, the reference provided says nothing about it hitting number one; that ref only says the song has been released and then reproduces a press writeup. Chubbles (talk) 08:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Radioactiveairplay.com is a music supplier. Musictoradio.com is a chart compilation that is used as an industry standard. The URL that was provided at one point went to this chart but for some reason it is dead now so I have fixed the url. Thank you.Canyouhearmenow 14:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, so this is #1 on a radio chart. What kind of radio? We must specify something more specific than "the charts"; this is too vague and, if anything, implies you are referring to the Billboard Hot 100, which is manifestly not the case. What does musictoradio.com compile, and what sector of the music industry is using it as a standard? Chubbles (talk) 01:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Chubbles, Christian music as a whole does not fit into the Billboard charting system as it is not that vast of a market. Radio stations receive their music through digital downloads today on the Christian front through companies such as RadioActiveAirplay.com. Those same radio stations are logging in those plays through digital playlists that are being maintained by companies such as MusictoRadio.com. Those tallies are then released and the charts are compiled. This unfortunately has become an industry standard as a departure from the 90's when Billboard was still reporting the genres.Canyouhearmenow 15:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * But Billboard does track Christian music airplay and sales. Again, calling it the "christian music" charts implies it is topping the Billboard Hot Christian Songs chart, since that is an industry standard. Billboard dominates the industry so profoundly at this point that, outside of perhaps iTunes (which has already been blackballed from Wikipedia entries as a result of WP:BADCHARTS), there is no other competitor for American music sales and airplay (Cashbox and the like having withered many years ago). I'd never heard of the websites you're mentioning, even though I have routinely written articles about Christian musicians (though I admit I don't work in the industry). Furthermore, Bruce Carroll-penned songs certainly aren't topping the charts on the local Christian radio stations in my area, nor do the artists on the chart you've shown me get coverage on Christian music websites I occasionally browse. So unless I can get a sense of what more specific sector of the Christian music market this chart is intended to cover, I suppose we'd have to specifically label it by the website's name to avoid misleading readers. Chubbles (talk) 17:44, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with you that there is not an abundance of viable charts. The Billboard charts do not cover all genres within the Christian market. Usually they only cover the top AC or CCM artists. That is a small reflection of an entire genre of music. Sad as it may be, these offset charts are what others go to to track artists that are not getting proper acknowledgement on a Billboard chart. I have no problem with the chart name being used if you feel thats what needs to be done, but again we must realize that this is an industry recognized charting system. I do write and report on Christian music and I too go to this chart as a go to reference for albums and song movement. Thanks for the conversation. Canyouhearmenow 22:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)