Talk:Bruce Tinsley/Archive 1

Hit piece
From the mug shot to the writeup of the entire entry, this is a hit piece on Tinsley and conservatism in general. It's not the factual content, it's the supercilious manner in which it is presented. Horologium 16:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, there just isn't a lot of information about Tinsley outside of the arrest. Also, the only other image of him I've ever seen other than the mugshot is this poor-quality - and non-public domain, I might add - image on the King Features website. I don't see how it is a "hit piece on... conservatism in general," though. --Rubber cat 06:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the mug shot and and re-added the NPOV tag. Per Rubber cat's comments, I can see the difficulty in making the article more balanced and NPOV given the lack of available information. However, would it not be better that no photo at all appear on the page than having the only photo of the subject be a mug shot?. Also, while the information about the arrest may be factual and relevant, it comprises about half the article. This gives the apprearance of being a personal smear on Tinsley, whether or not that was the intention. Further consideration needs to be given as to how the make article more balanced and neutral. Hence, the NPOV tag.--JayJasper 20:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Tinsley has only done two things sufficiently notable to merit mention in an article: he created a popular comic strip and he ironically drove drunk. There is some truth to the idea that this is an negative piece, but it is not biased against conservatism in general. Mallard Fillmore is a deeply flawed cartoon from a technical standpoint (no backgrounds,skewed perspectives, confusing scale, and an overly crowded panel), even without taking content into account. A typical Mallard Fillmore contains several largely motionless panels featuring Mallard interviewing a public figure or a stereotypical "egghead professor", "hippie", "godless scientist" or generic liberal. This person is a "straw man" who makes the weakest possible form of an argument or statement. Mallard then retorts in the last panel, leaving the intellectual/doctor/city dweller to look foolish and defeated. Mallard Fillmore is never funny, and even conservatives are aware of this. Thoughtful conservatives are embarrassed by the smug, anti-intellectual, crypto-racist, reductionist tone. Fillmore is generally picked by newspaper editors to run opposite a "liberal" strip like Doonesbury or The Boondocks and is intended to provide political balance, not chuckles. I say without hesitation that it is the single worst major comic strip in print (including "Family Circus" which is unfunny but at least well drawn and good-hearted). 67.163.163.28 (talk) 05:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "A typical Mallard Fillmore contains several largely motionless panels featuring Mallard interviewing a public figure or a stereotypical "egghead professor", "hippie", "godless scientist" or generic liberal. This person is a "straw man" who makes the weakest possible form of an argument or statement. Mallard then retorts in the last panel, leaving the intellectual/doctor/city dweller to look foolish and defeated." - you mean, basically exactly what Doonesbury, or in fact nearly all political comics do, except from an opposing idealogical viewpoint? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 05:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Removing Tag
I am removing the NPOV tag, because the rewrite I did (removing the Limbaugh reference) removed the major problem I had with the piece. Horologium talk - contrib 22:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I have re-added the tag. See comments in the above section.--JayJasper 20:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The tag is no longer needed, as the article appears neutral now.--JayJasper (talk) 16:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Tinsley-Editorial.jpg
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Undue weight
Too much undue weight has been given to the DUI, and the only possible reliable source is long gone, if it ever existed. Thus, back to stub until good sources can be found. Remember BLP.-- Bedford Pray  14:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Undue weight: cancellations
Why is so much article space given to two newspapers that canceled his strip and then re-instated it? These are hardly notable events; other cancellations (which were note reversed) are left out, and, in any event, cancellations pertain to the strip and not to Tinsley. The fact that he was asked to draw a picture for someone's funeral is neither sourced nor noteworthy. We should probably remove those, or move them to Mallard Fillmore. If this means the article becomes rather short, that's not really a problem. rewinn (talk) 01:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)